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  • TheBlik
    Advanced Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 150

    #1

    E30 Straight cut gears?

    i know i haven't been to up with the r3vs. But ill try this time around. For the last two days ive been helping a friend with a 5 speed swap. ive been thinkin. is there any way possible to stick either dog leg, straight cut gears or even a sequential gear box into my E30? ive been kinda searchin around. and i know the m3 race/rally cars have them, but is it possible to do to a stock Getrag for under 5k?
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  • Wanganstyle
    R3VLimited
    • Apr 2010
    • 2828

    #2
    yes, but why not just get a modern 6 speed gearbox. you can shift it clutch less if you are really good (you can clutchless shift a G260 if you have the timing right).
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    • Jaxx_
      E30 Mastermind
      • Dec 2009
      • 1880

      #3
      under 5k? HAHAHAHA

      but seriously, i doubt it. I don't know why you'd want just straight cut gears unless you're destroying transmissions... if we're talking a full dog box, then it would make sense. And I like the regular H pattern just fine, I wouldn't buy into the dog-leg thing. You might give PPG a call and see what they would be able to do, but the boxes for the WRX/STi aren't cheap. They have a helical 5th, which I think is pretty dope.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVDwVsNASwA here's an e30 with a dog leg box, so it is possible, but I don't know the specs of it. I believe the car still has an M20, though.
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      • TheBlik
        Advanced Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 150

        #4
        Wanganstyle, i think it would be cool to have a sequential gear box for like a rally car or a track day car. Idk i was just thinkin and if a had the money Jaxx i would seriously think about doing it. It was just a thought, and tryin to get some input on what would work or not
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        • nrubenstein
          No R3VLimiter
          • Feb 2009
          • 3148

          #5
          Originally posted by TheBlik
          Wanganstyle, i think it would be cool to have a sequential gear box for like a rally car or a track day car. Idk i was just thinkin and if a had the money Jaxx i would seriously think about doing it. It was just a thought, and tryin to get some input on what would work or not
          Well, sequential and straight cut gears are not in any way the same thing.

          Straight cut gears can be done if you want lots of gear whine.

          A sequential would be hard to do for less than the cost of a nice E46 M3. (And aftermarket sequential boxes are made for race cars and have service lives measured in hours.)
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          • M-technik-3
            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
            • Oct 2003
            • 18946

            #6
            WHY? other than trolling. The gearboxes that are out there are just fine. Why try to improve something that is just not really worth the effort or hassle.
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            • TheBlik
              Advanced Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 150

              #7
              i know sequential and straight cut gears are different, so what what you guys are saying is save my money buy an e46 and put a sequential into it? well ill hit you guys up in 6 years haha. but i guess its not even worth the hassle of putting them into an e30.
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              • nando
                Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 34827

                #8
                this is one of those things - if you have to ask, the answer is no, you can't do it.
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                • accident
                  R3V OG
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 7303

                  #9
                  ^

                  Originally posted by ROLLingKING
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                  Originally posted by slammin.e28
                  Moral of this story?

                  If you drive your e30 on stairs, you're gonna have a bad time.

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                  • Hey-U
                    E30 Addict
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 560

                    #10

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                    • TheBlik
                      Advanced Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 150

                      #11
                      so all i need is a ton of money and an s14. any one got an m3 for sale? haha
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                      • pantelones
                        E30 Addict
                        • May 2011
                        • 533

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jaxx_

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVDwVsNASwA here's an e30 with a dog leg box, so it is possible, but I don't know the specs of it. I believe the car still has an M20, though.
                        That video was amazing!
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                        • tttoon
                          Wrencher
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 275

                          #13
                          Unless you're outdriving a normal gearbox I would stay away from dog boxes (which are different from dogleg) or sequential. Everything is possible but costs tons of money.

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                          • Wanganstyle
                            R3VLimited
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 2828

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TheBlik
                            Wanganstyle, i think it would be cool to have a sequential gear box for like a rally car or a track day car. Idk i was just thinkin and if a had the money Jaxx i would seriously think about doing it. It was just a thought, and tryin to get some input on what would work or not
                            call PPG. the scooby guys get dog boxes w straight gears for about 5k including a front and center diff, a bmw box has 0 diffs inside and its probably feasible if there are similar gears sized to fit the BMW case.

                            I'm guessing with the sheer amount of transmissions that ZF produces some aftermarket gear company like PPG will have a setup to fit a Zf Sg320 for racing use. A Zfsg320 will fit anything pretty much even a M20 pnp.
                            OBD1 M54/M52TU swap as a M50b25

                            Z4 non powered steering rack fits e30



                            Euro e46 2005/6 320d 6mt gearbox into E30 with M20 hardy and beck 1985 327s engine

                            Comment

                            • whodwho
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 1547

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TheBlik
                              i know i haven't been to up with the r3vs. But ill try this time around. For the last two days ive been helping a friend with a 5 speed swap. ive been thinkin. is there any way possible to stick either dog leg, straight cut gears or even a sequential gear box into my E30? ive been kinda searchin around. and i know the m3 race/rally cars have them, but is it possible to do to a stock Getrag for under 5k?
                              Hit up this guy, it appears he has something to do with them or just buy his car :)

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