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  • m3j0n
    Grease Monkey
    • Feb 2006
    • 395

    #1

    shifting quirk... need guidance...

    when the car is off, the car is very easily put into gear and shifted through all the gears. Once the engine is running, however, it becomes super difficult to put it in gear and almost needs to be forced into gear. Any ideas where I should start my search for the culprit? thanks.

    -Jon
  • e30davie
    E30 Mastermind
    • Apr 2016
    • 1788

    #2
    Your clutch. If its not disengaging fully it will probably give symptoms as you describe.

    Did this start happening after you changed something? has it gotten worse over time?

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    • m3j0n
      Grease Monkey
      • Feb 2006
      • 395

      #3
      bought the car like that

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      • Panici
        Moderator
        • Dec 2009
        • 2311

        #4
        Originally posted by e30davie
        Your clutch. If its not disengaging fully it will probably give symptoms as you describe.
        +1.
        You can double check this by putting the rear of the car on jackstands. Start the car in gear with the clutch pushed in. If the back wheels are moving at all, then clutch is not fully disengaging.

        Start by bleeding the master/slave system for the clutch.

        If you bleed the system and and the symptoms come back after some time, chances are that there is a leak or torn boot somewhere.

        '87 BMW E30 325is Turbo

        '99 BMW E36 M3 - - - '98 BMW E36 328i

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        • nrubenstein
          No R3VLimiter
          • Feb 2009
          • 3148

          #5
          Yes. This sounds like a clutch disengagement issue. Bleed your clutch properly (with the slave disconnected, compressed, and the bleed screw vertical). Also check the pedal box for cracking. If the pedal box is failing, it'll eventually bend enough that you can't fully disengage the clutch.
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          2002 BMW M3 Alpinweiß/Black
          1999 323i GTS2 Alpinweiß
          1995 M3 Dakargelb/Black
          - S50B32/S6S420G/3.91
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          1989 M3 Alpinweiß/Black

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          • m3j0n
            Grease Monkey
            • Feb 2006
            • 395

            #6
            thanks! will check it.. the car had been sitting for quite some time, so its possible that the hoses have allowed some air in the system. fingers crossed that its a simple bleeding issue and not a full clutch job...

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            • nrubenstein
              No R3VLimiter
              • Feb 2009
              • 3148

              #7
              Originally posted by m3j0n
              thanks! will check it.. the car had been sitting for quite some time, so its possible that the hoses have allowed some air in the system. fingers crossed that its a simple bleeding issue and not a full clutch job...
              Get your head under the dash and inspect the pedal box. Push the pedal down and watch for any movement.
              2006 GMC Sierra 2500HD 4WD LBZ/Allison
              2002 BMW M3 Alpinweiß/Black
              1999 323i GTS2 Alpinweiß
              1995 M3 Dakargelb/Black
              - S50B32/S6S420G/3.91
              1990 325is Brilliantrot/Tan
              1989 M3 Alpinweiß/Black

              Hers: 1996 Porsche 911 Turbo Black/Black
              Hers: 1988 325iX Coupe Diamantschwartz/Black 5spd

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              • m3j0n
                Grease Monkey
                • Feb 2006
                • 395

                #8
                Originally posted by nrubenstein
                Get your head under the dash and inspect the pedal box. Push the pedal down and watch for any movement.
                what am I looking for exactly? can this inspection be done without removing the lower part of the dash?

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                • nrubenstein
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 3148

                  #9
                  You have to pull the dash panel off. You are looking for any pedal pivoting, or movement of the bracket.
                  2006 GMC Sierra 2500HD 4WD LBZ/Allison
                  2002 BMW M3 Alpinweiß/Black
                  1999 323i GTS2 Alpinweiß
                  1995 M3 Dakargelb/Black
                  - S50B32/S6S420G/3.91
                  1990 325is Brilliantrot/Tan
                  1989 M3 Alpinweiß/Black

                  Hers: 1996 Porsche 911 Turbo Black/Black
                  Hers: 1988 325iX Coupe Diamantschwartz/Black 5spd

                  sigpic

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                  • m3j0n
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 395

                    #10
                    thanks nick!

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