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  • hoveringuy
    R3VLimited
    • Dec 2005
    • 2679

    #1

    CV boot intall- stretching

    I'm almost done with my rebuild using the GKN Lobro rebuild kits.

    The inner boots come pre-installed. The outer boots need to be stretched over the output shaft.

    How the heck to you do it without the $200 installation stretcher tool??
  • sebe20
    Member
    • Aug 2018
    • 97

    #2
    Grease and some long pliers and preheat the boot. Otherwise borrow that tool somewhere.

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    • noid
      E30 Mastermind
      • Feb 2008
      • 1529

      #3
      You shouldn't have to stretch anything.

      The diff side has a circlip under the lid you remove, then the whole cage/ball assembly comes off with the boot, leaving you with just the shaft.

      Now you're able to slide the other boot off from the hub side.

      For reinstall, just do the reverse, boot on the hub side, then cage/balls/boot/circlip/lid for the diff side.
      Your resource to do-it-yourself and interesting bmw and e30 stuff: www.rtsauto.com

      Your resource to tools and tips: www.rtstools.com

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      • hoveringuy
        R3VLimited
        • Dec 2005
        • 2679

        #4
        With the tool it's almost trivial. Without the tool, it's basically impossible...


        The outer boots come pre-installed, the inner boots can't be installed until the joint and the C-clip are assembled.

        Once it's stretched it's somewhat easy to pull over the CV joint.

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        • KIRIEIW
          No R3VLimiter
          • Dec 2012
          • 3385

          #5
          Originally posted by noid
          You shouldn't have to stretch anything.

          The diff side has a circlip under the lid you remove, then the whole cage/ball assembly comes off with the boot, leaving you with just the shaft.

          Now you're able to slide the other boot off from the hub side.

          For reinstall, just do the reverse, boot on the hub side, then cage/balls/boot/circlip/lid for the diff side.

          +1. I've never done a e30 but this is how I've done every newer model BMW at work.


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          • noid
            E30 Mastermind
            • Feb 2008
            • 1529

            #6
            Originally posted by hoveringuy
            With the tool it's almost trivial. Without the tool, it's basically impossible...


            The outer boots come pre-installed, the inner boots can't be installed until the joint and the C-clip are assembled.

            Once it's stretched it's somewhat easy to pull over the CV joint.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTyhPun99_o
            I think you're confused.

            You should only be disassembling one end, the diff (inner) side. Once completey removed you will be left with the shaft, and at the bottom of the shaft, the outer boot. Undo it and slide it off and slide the new one on.

            Also I think you're over estimating how much stretch you need, the boot doesn't get stretched all the way to the widest part of the joint.

            For reference, showing just how little stretch you need:


            You don't need any stretching tool. The boots are meant to be put on and off by hand without much struggle.

            The stretching tool is only used by shops because its a quick and dirty way of replacing boots (allows for tech not to have to remove joint); when working by the book hours, any job you can do quicker is money in the pocket.
            Your resource to do-it-yourself and interesting bmw and e30 stuff: www.rtsauto.com

            Your resource to tools and tips: www.rtstools.com

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            • hoveringuy
              R3VLimited
              • Dec 2005
              • 2679

              #7
              Your picture is not an E30 half shaft. Trust me, there was only one place to stretch the boot to and it wasn't happening by hand.

              The diff side was easy. Nothing required.

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              • hoveringuy
                R3VLimited
                • Dec 2005
                • 2679

                #8
                Here's the outer side. It's impossible to remove and repack the joint without removing the boot, and the boot is the last thing to go back on after it's re-assembled.

                Maybe the old OEM boot goes on by hand, but that's a no-go with the rebuild kit.
                Attached Files

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                • noid
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1529

                  #9
                  Originally posted by hoveringuy
                  Your picture is not an E30 half shaft. Trust me, there was only one place to stretch the boot to and it wasn't happening by hand.

                  The diff side was easy. Nothing required.
                  The picture is of a GKN E30 axle.

                  I'm not going to keep going in circles. This is a job I've done dozens of times and have described it as simple as possible.

                  Do what you will.
                  Your resource to do-it-yourself and interesting bmw and e30 stuff: www.rtsauto.com

                  Your resource to tools and tips: www.rtstools.com

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                  • hoveringuy
                    R3VLimited
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 2679

                    #10
                    Are there two different style axles???

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                    • AndrewBird
                      The Mad Scientist
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 11892

                      #11
                      Looks like the wrong boot for sure. Should just slip on, no stretch.

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                      • dude8383
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                        • Jan 2005
                        • 10387

                        #12
                        I use a combination of right angle picks and curved picks to get the boots to slide over the lip on the outer boot casing. It's a pain in the ass and its a dirty job. Part of the reason why I stopped doing axle rebuilds... I can't stand how messy this job is.
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                        • nrubenstein
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 3148

                          #13
                          Originally posted by hoveringuy
                          Are there two different style axles???
                          You take off one of the CV joints and slide BOTH boots on from that end. It sounds like you already took the inner CV off, but didn’t put both boots on at the same time.
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                          • hoveringuy
                            R3VLimited
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 2679

                            #14
                            Originally posted by nrubenstein
                            You take off one of the CV joints and slide BOTH boots on from that end. It sounds like you already took the inner CV off, but didn’t put both boots on at the same time.
                            I wasn't just replacing boots, I cleaned and re-packed both sides. Otherwise, ya, you could just remove one side and replace both boots.

                            I wonder if the OEM boots were the same when they were new, and over the years they've just held the larger shape?

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                            • TobyB
                              R3V Elite
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 5163

                              #15
                              All this talk of 'stretching' and 'grease' and 'tools'...

                              I gotta go take a shower.

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