Denny's M62B44 swap (MS2 installed First start VIDEO inside)

[The Dark Side of Will]

I still don't understand it entirely. You've got the power coming from the igniters in the DME and the ground wire. The one I don't understand is the wire coming from the ignition switch. Is it just a constant 12v source for the coil to charge?

I'm actually using some VW coils with built in igniters for my Microsquirt unit, so I've been poking around the wiring diagrams to see what wiring I can reuse in my harness.

+12V current is sourced from the ignition switch, flows through the coils and sinks in the igniters. The igniter is just a high current transistor that can sink the coil's charge current.

The DME does not power the coils... it just *GROUNDS* them to complete the circuit.

"Smart" coils have the igniters built in as you mention. That means they need a +12V power, +5V control signal and ground capable of sinking the charge current.

[The Dark Side of Will]

MS2 V3.57 with all the goodies even the infamous IAT sensor lolll (my experience tuning was limited to Forced induction cars all my life so news to me its needed so importantly for timing in N/A but I would install it anyways for extra protection too.)

It's pretty important for forced induction engines, too, but moreso for the timing calculation, as FI engines tend to run much closer to the detonation threshold than NA engines.

A friend of mine has a '96 Talon with turbo upgrade and full supporting mods. It's cracked 11's on E85. Yes, I know that's not that fast by DSM standards, but it will serve to illustrated my point.

He has a DSMLink, GM MAF and a MAF translator. He wired everything up as per the instructions and tuned it. It ran really well. Then the weather changed and it didn't. We troubleshot it and found that the MAF translator has an internal resistor providing a dummy IAT signal that's always 80 degrees. I was about to go shoot somebody... One of the stupidest things I've ever seen related to engine management.

[Denny]

It's pretty important for forced induction engines, too, but moreso for the timing calculation, as FI engines tend to run much closer to the detonation threshold than NA engines.

A friend of mine has a '96 Talon with turbo upgrade and full supporting mods. It's cracked 11's on E85. Yes, I know that's not that fast by DSM standards, but it will serve to illustrated my point.

He has a DSMLink, GM MAF and a MAF translator. He wired everything up as per the instructions and tuned it. It ran really well. Then the weather changed and it didn't. We troubleshot it and found that the MAF translator has an internal resistor providing a dummy IAT signal that's always 80 degrees. I was about to go shoot somebody... One of the stupidest things I've ever seen related to engine management.

Oh man ...I remember those MAF translator and the DSM world in general which I miss...Had a 1990 eagle talon TSI (Canada they were under chrysler brand called Eagle) didnt take much to bring the legendary 4G63 into the 11`s .. good times... then I fell in love with these little pesky bmw 30`s lolll

[marshallnoise]

Oh man ...I remember those MAF translator and the DSM world in general which I miss...Had a 1990 eagle talon TSI (Canada they were under chrysler brand called Eagle) didnt take much to bring the legendary 4G63 into the 11`s .. good times... then I fell in love with these little pesky bmw 30`s lolll

They were still Eagle in the States.

[Denny]

Well I got a huge scare... I tough I had fried my Quadspark or worst MS2.. one wrong spark setting...5 more seconds and I would of lost the spark battle..but I came threw :)

Very happy right now... so I move the next and FINAL! step before starting this M62b44 with pure all MS2 and new wiring...

whats NEXT!!??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oprIEViK350

[MonkeyMadness]

Oh i was going to guess race sticker. They add like 5hp per.

[Denny]

SPARK tested and working!


Some good progress has been done recently... very close to doing the first start!

Got the Ignition sorted out.. with the QuadSpark installed the temperature on the little unit went up to 70degree celcius on Key On...so I knew something was not right.. 1 wrong setting in tunerstudio almost fried the Coil drivers. Thank god I build a good heatsink for it and didnt start the car... anyways I checked spark and all is good :) so next is Fuel / Fuel pump relay...going to use BMW relays so

special pic just for JEREMY :) 4 stickers x 5HP each = 20HP more...worth it to me lolll

Also while waiting for my Sparktester I built the shifter nicely centered..

QuadSpark installed with Heatsink best place I could find in the very busy enginebay

sorting out the BMW relay for Fuel Pump and power to Injectors..

here is my new tool.. nice little sparktester works really well

also while I waited for sparktester I worked on intake filter.. I got the biggest K&N I could find that could fit.. (I modified the OEM windshield washer bottle with a little heatgun action. (I will paint it flat black after its 100% done)

almost there for first official start stay tuned..

[CMart]

Hell yeah, valve covers look great too!

[Denny]

Hell yeah, valve covers look great too!

Thanks man :)

Tonight I finished the relays.. ALL the sensors.. everything is done. All I need now for first start is 2 x 10A fuses for Injectors and reinstall 15A Fuelp pump fuse...but its 11:25 right now... so ran out of time.

Cannot wait to do the first start...

I was thinking of doing a Video to explain my setup anybody interested?

[GAbOS]

Absolutely interested. Great work!

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[Chris916]

Yessir! nice work

[Denny]

Yessir! nice work

Absolutely interested. Great work!

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thanks guys...

I will just leave this here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1blTZssiRQ

now the fun starts...

[Tjabo]

I couldn't remember for sure that you could fire two coils from one BIP373 for wasted spark or not, but apparently you can! :)

I'm not clear whether you are triggering off of the 60-2 wheel on the flywheel, or the front crank pulley?

Anyway, beautiful build thread -- subscribed for sure!

[MonkeyMadness]

Are you Done yet?

[Denny]

95% done :)..got car appraised today for insurance