Denny's M62B44 swap (MS2 installed First start VIDEO inside)

[smalcol]

And... Just looked back through your thread, yes, you had replaced the gaskets and pulled both pans. Damn

[MonkeyMadness]

Yea pre vanos b44 are 97-98 maybe 99 but not sure. They also came in the range rover, and never got vanos

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[Denny]

Hey Denny, sorry to see this, damn.

A quick search didn't show anything to disable Vanos. There are a few other things that changed along with Vanos being added. DBW throttle, water cooled alternator. I would look for a pre-vanos motor or M60.

Is this the first time you've had the lower pan off the motor? Did your oil pressure light not come on?

I found a site that sells Vanos delete kits but none for M62 motors.. actually whats also sad aside from this failure is the fact there are not much options for us for performance... hell even rebuilding is a costly thing...acid etched cylinder walls.. or iron sleeves...all cost a damn fortune and close to M5 5.0L territory..

And... Just looked back through your thread, yes, you had replaced the gaskets and pulled both pans. Damn

Yea pre vanos b44 are 97-98 maybe 99 but not sure. They also came in the range rover, and never got vanos

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trying to find the best option to go... money, motor availability and performance.. and especially reliability. I think VAC is the only one that do work on these engines.. https://store.vacmotorsports.com/vac...nes-p1448.aspx

[JGood]

m6x's are a dime a dozen, just grab another. There's 3 pick n' pulls within 1 hour of me, all of them have at least 2-3 m6x's every time I go. They charge $125 for any engine. 99% of m6x's don't fail mechanically like yours did, if the guides are done. Replace the guides, feed them oil, and they run forever. I'm running a random junk 200k+ mile m62 block with warped 160k+ mile m60 heads. I regasketed it, put guides on it, and compression is dead even across all 8. I have 25k miles on it in my e30, and literally beat the shit out of it every day on my 100 mile commute. Full throttle, 7k rpm's, no mercy. And that's with the nearly 11:1 compression of the m60b44 combo, running an m60 tune. There's also a lot of turbo m6x guys running 10+ psi, 600+whp on stock, unopened engines. They're strong.

IMO, it's not worth building the engine. You'll have $10k+ into a build and barely make s62 power. Sleeving I can see, if you want to go to big boost.

[MonkeyMadness]

Bentley used a boosted twin screw stock version of the m60 and had no issue. There built for boost and detuned for road use.

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[Denny]

Bentley used a boosted twin screw stock version of the m60 and had no issue. There built for boost and detuned for road use.

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m6x's are a dime a dozen, just grab another. There's 3 pick n' pulls within 1 hour of me, all of them have at least 2-3 m6x's every time I go. They charge $125 for any engine. 99% of m6x's don't fail mechanically like yours did, if the guides are done. Replace the guides, feed them oil, and they run forever. I'm running a random junk 200k+ mile m62 block with warped 160k+ mile m60 heads. I regasketed it, put guides on it, and compression is dead even across all 8. I have 25k miles on it in my e30, and literally beat the shit out of it every day on my 100 mile commute. Full throttle, 7k rpm's, no mercy. And that's with the nearly 11:1 compression of the m60b44 combo, running an m60 tune. There's also a lot of turbo m6x guys running 10+ psi, 600+whp on stock, unopened enging.

IMO, it's not worth building the engine. You'll have $10k+ into a build and barely make s62 power. Sleeving I can see, if you want to go to big boost.

Ok i didnt know they were that strong...and would of probably saved mine had i done the rails... In my dreams if i could find m6x for 125$.. Local junkyard here wants 2k for high mileage crap... And shipping would be crazy probably from you to me

[Denny]

Anybody know if i can use a m62b44tu block with m62b44 non vanos heads?? Reason is because 90% of available donor cars in my area are vanos...

[MonkeyMadness]

Yes the short block will swap.
Front covers and heads will need to be swapped.

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[Denny]

Yes the short block will swap.
Front covers and heads will need to be swapped.

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Cool thanks ... Happy it swaps cause since no way am skipping on changing rails and head gasket on next build and vanos cars are available and cheap cause...vanos loll

[Denny]

Well i found the problem....

Rod bearing piston 2 and 6 destroyed and fused together was a bitch to remove...crank is garbage but lucky mains are ok.... So i'm getting another engine tomorrow.... Now how this happened i got no f*cking clue...

[marshallnoise]

Well i found the problem....

Sure as shit you did!

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[Jony]

Guys whats wrong with m62tu swap?

[Tjabo]

VANOS and drive by wire throttle are two of the problems with it in my book. I guess maybe if you're swapping in a factory DME with the appropriate EWS and ring antenna it could be ok... What a pain that would be though. Haha

[Jony]

VANOS and drive by wire throttle are two of the problems with it in my book. I guess maybe if you're swapping in a factory DME with the appropriate EWS and ring antenna it could be ok... What a pain that would be though. Haha

I have m62tu in my e30 ;)

[Tjabo]

I have m62tu in my e30 ;)

Oh, so it was a "trick question!" :)

What was your approach to running the TU in your e30?