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  • 91 318is
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Jul 2004
    • 1175

    #1

    Fuel level reading not correct, what's up?

    Posted this in the electronics section, might get more luck here so I copied and pasted.

    Long story short, cluster was swapped out and now the fuel gauge is reading 1/2 tank when fuel tank is almost empty, and the low level light comes on. I read around and seemed like a normal problem with swapping early model clusters into late model cars. I got a working gauge and matched the part #'s with realoem's correct part # for my car, swapped it, and is still not correct. I also swapped the fuel level sender, that obviously didn't help.

    Oh and I also, I checked to make sure the little box that plugs in the front of the cluster is the correct one and it's the blue one, which is for the 318.

    Anyone have any idea?

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  • Jean
    Moderator
    • Aug 2006
    • 18228

    #2
    So you have a late model car yes? It has TWO senders, they work together as they are connected in series. Have you checked them both? If one is OFF, reading will be OFF.

    The fuel gauge in your cluster needs to be from a late model car as well. Basically it needs to be from a car that had TWO senders.
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    • e30Matt
      R3V Elite
      • Dec 2003
      • 5077

      #3
      Yep, dead on the money. You can swap a fuel gauge by itself into an early cluster and be OK, though. The difference is entirely in the gauge.

      "See, we're adding a little something to this month's sales contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anyone wanna see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired."

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      • Kershaw
        R3V OG
        • Feb 2010
        • 11822

        #4
        i had this issue. i swapped a late model cluster into my early model car, because the car came with an eta cluster and i put an i engine in it.

        all i did to fix it was swap the old fuel gauge into the new cluster.
        AWD > RWD

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        • 91 318is
          E30 Enthusiast
          • Jul 2004
          • 1175

          #5
          Yes I have a 91 318is.

          So there is 2 senders in my tank? I only saw one when I took the cover off under the rear seat (I think I did).

          Well to be honest, I'm not sure if it's a early model cluster or not. All I know is after the cluster was swapped, the fuel indication hasn't been right since. I installed a new, correct part number fuel gauge yesterday and that didn't fix it, made sure the code plug on the front of the cluster is correct, and it is.

          Thanks

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          • 91 318is
            E30 Enthusiast
            • Jul 2004
            • 1175

            #6
            Just looked on realoem and they're listing ONE fuel sender in the tank?

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            • Jean
              Moderator
              • Aug 2006
              • 18228

              #7
              One is on the passenger side in the fuel pump assembly, and one is on the driver's side. Look again.
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              • 91 318is
                E30 Enthusiast
                • Jul 2004
                • 1175

                #8
                Originally posted by Jean
                One is on the passenger side in the fuel pump assembly, and one is on the driver's side. Look again.
                is the sender seperate from the pump assembly?

                9 is the only listing they have for a sender?


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                • Jean
                  Moderator
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 18228

                  #9
                  #9 is the thin sender inside the pump, there is also another sender on the other side of the tank..it's about 2x as thick. It's not pictured. Just pull the seat and look for a round cover.
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                  • 91 318is
                    E30 Enthusiast
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 1175

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jean
                    #9 is the thin sender inside the pump, there is also another sender on the other side of the tank..it's about 2x as thick. It's not pictured. Just pull the seat and look for a round cover.
                    fair enough. I'll be back.

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                    • 91 318is
                      E30 Enthusiast
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 1175

                      #11
                      Pulled the seat and the cover. Pulled it off and nothing's under there. So apparently I only have one sender.

                      What's next?

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                      • e30Matt
                        R3V Elite
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 5077

                        #12
                        Apparently 318is's only had one sender, just checked RealOEM for myself, and it only shows one. Strange. You may have a bad sender then, you can remove the four 8mm nuts on top of the fuel pump assembly and pull the sender from the tank, just make sure to have a bucket ready as it will pee fuel all over the place when you pull it out.

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                        • jlevie
                          R3V OG
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 13530

                          #13
                          318's only have the single sensor mounted with the pump. Unless there is something wrong with the new sensor the gage only going to half way when the tank is empty is caused by the wrong fuel gage being in the cluster. Pull the gage from the old cluster and install it in this cluster. Or go to a dealer and buy a new gage whose part number is correct for this car.
                          The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                          Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                          • 91 318is
                            E30 Enthusiast
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 1175

                            #14
                            It's a brand new VDO sender in it, and it's reading the exact same as the old sender.

                            Also, swapped the gauge out with another gauge that is the correct part # for the car. It's been confirmed with realoem.


                            So new sender, and correct fuel gauge and it's still not working.

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                            • Jean
                              Moderator
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 18228

                              #15
                              Oh sorry, I didn't know late model 318i cars only had one sender and not 2 like late model 325i cars!
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