NEED IMMEDIATE HELP! subframe bushings

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  • straight6pwr
    No R3VLimiter
    • Sep 2004
    • 3450

    #1

    NEED IMMEDIATE HELP! subframe bushings

    heres what im dealing with:


    the rubber is completely separated from the center sleeve.

    I rented the subframe bushing removal/installation tool and started the process this AM. Problem: after unbolting everything and then prying the subframe from the car on one side, instead of the entire bushing releasing off the car, the rubber gave out and left the center metal sleeve still stuck. how the hell do i get it off? its been PB blasting and soaking for hours now, banging at the end sideways with a hammer, it wont budge and now there is no weight from the subframe to pull it down. HELP! cant heat it up, the gas tank/lines are too close.
  • CorvallisBMW
    Long Schlong Longhammer
    • Feb 2005
    • 13039

    #2
    rent a 3-jaw puller, rip it out with that?

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    • ZM Blue Devil
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      • Dec 2006
      • 13836

      #3
      Damn that looks nasty. I can send a replacement subframe with Turk if you want he is driving to Milwaukee tomorrow. Should be there Friday.

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      • 36brua
        Mod Crazy
        • Feb 2008
        • 689

        #4
        screw a lagg bolt 1/2" , 5/8" ? into the sleeve from the bottom. Go into interior remove seat etc. insert steel rod in sleeve an hit with BFH...
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        • straight6pwr
          No R3VLimiter
          • Sep 2004
          • 3450

          #5
          Originally posted by 36brua
          screw a lagg bolt 1/2" , 5/8" ? into the sleeve from the bottom. Go into interior remove seat etc. insert steel rod in sleeve an hit with BFH...
          we ended up doing this, twice. first time i did a really hard dead blow, and it tore the aluminum sleeve and broke the bolt. second time i used softer hits and it inched out. ill post a pic when im done working.

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          • straight6pwr
            No R3VLimiter
            • Sep 2004
            • 3450

            #6
            Originally posted by ZM Blue Devil
            Damn that looks nasty. I can send a replacement subframe with Turk if you want he is driving to Milwaukee tomorrow. Should be there Friday.

            L
            thanks for the offer, but its all better now. really wanted to avoid dropping the entire rear end. the bushing was the only thing that got damaged.

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            • monty23psk
              E30 Fanatic
              • Mar 2008
              • 1289

              #7
              Good you got it. Just saw this post. Lag bolt is how I got mine out also. Hope the tool works out.
              Alex 88 m5 | 91 318is | 19 Subaru Ascent
              BMW Tool Rentals & Fender Roller

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              • dinanm3atl
                R3V OG
                • Feb 2007
                • 7305

                #8
                Glad mine just dropped right out. That looks like a mess.

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                • Axxe
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 3355

                  #9
                  I air chiselled mine out. The impact and material removed made it just drop out after about 30 seconds.


                  Keep it slideways!!

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                  • 5KWattson
                    E30 Modder
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 809

                    #10
                    use a lil bit of heat that might help as well...just dont light the bitch on fire
                    "God created turbo lag to give V8's a chance" Taylor D.

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                    • straight6pwr
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 3450

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 5KWattson
                      use a lil bit of heat that might help as well...just dont light the bitch on fire
                      not a change i was lighting a torch that close to the fuel tank/lines/pump, especially with all the PB blaster everywhere.

                      Originally posted by monty23psk
                      Good you got it. Just saw this post. Lag bolt is how I got mine out also. Hope the tool works out.
                      thanks. tool worked great! honestly if the subframe bushings would just drop out, this job could take 30min/side with the tool. you dont have to disconnect anything but the subframe bushing to gain enough room.

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                      • Kingb
                        E30 Modder
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 928

                        #12
                        When I did mine I put a chisel in to the shaft from the bottom and hit it from side to side and it worked out. It was a bitch and broke but. It came out
                        Originally posted by Nicademus
                        My car beats off to that car. :bow:

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                        • monty23psk
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 1289

                          #13
                          Originally posted by straight6pwr
                          not a change i was lighting a torch that close to the fuel tank/lines/pump, especially with all the PB blaster everywhere.



                          thanks. tool worked great! honestly if the subframe bushings would just drop out, this job could take 30min/side with the tool. you dont have to disconnect anything but the subframe bushing to gain enough room.
                          Yeah, the tool does work awesome and that's why I decided to rent it out. The price I set it is cheap enough that you save so much time with it but I am surprised it takes some time between rentals. Glad it worked out.
                          Alex 88 m5 | 91 318is | 19 Subaru Ascent
                          BMW Tool Rentals & Fender Roller

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                          • straight6pwr
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 3450

                            #14
                            here's the carnage:



                            for anyone who has this problem in the future, i simply used a drill to put a hole through the bottom of the mount and sunk a hex wrench through it (obviously). then took a 3/8 socket with long extension and dropped it into the subframe bolt hole under the back seat and pounded it out carefully. the first attempt, i took a BFH and struck the extension as hard as i could and it just ripped through the aluminum sleeve.

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                            • Sagaris
                              R3VLimited
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 2243

                              #15
                              I am not familiar at all with the rear subframe bushings, I haven't spent any time under that end of the car. Is it a problem that the sleeves ripped?

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