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  • Simontibbett
    Advanced Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 127

    #1

    Can't Get Control Arm Off

    HELP...

    Putting springs on my car and on the passenger side I removed the control arm where it connects to the ball joint or whatever. I did this along with the tie rod and sway bar mount, then everything just falls.

    Well I CANNOT get it out. Nut is off, I've used a fork and stood on it, jumped on it, everything I can think of, it's soaking on PB Blaster right now.

    Anymore ideas? Simple things ALWAYS go wrong, the three top bolts on my top mount whatever it's called snapped off in the engine bay too so...:hitler::hitler::banghead:
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  • KenC
    King of Kegstands
    • Oct 2003
    • 14396

    #2
    http://www.harborfreight.com/3-4-qua...tor-99849.html
    Originally posted by Gruelius
    and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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    • Ceeker
      R3VLimited
      • Sep 2009
      • 2821

      #3
      take a sledge hammer or large ball pin and hammer on the edge of the control arm just below where the ball joint sits. that should release it from the strut.

      Btw, first put the strut back up into wheel well and put the 3 nuts back on. You need something to secure the strut from dropping. Then take the hammer to it.

      if I understand what you are saying here; you can't mount the strut bearing back in because the studs broke? I would suggest dropping the entire control arm with the strut and work on it - off the car.
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      • Simontibbett
        Advanced Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 127

        #4
        Originally posted by Ceeker
        take a sledge hammer or large ball pin and hammer on the edge of the control arm just below where the ball joint sits. that should release it from the strut.

        Btw, first put the strut back up into wheel well and put the 3 nuts back on. You need something to secure the strut from dropping. Then take the hammer to it.

        if I understand what you are saying here; you can't mount the strut bearing back in because the studs broke? I would suggest dropping the entire control arm with the strut and work on it - off the car.
        That's correct, can't put the strut back up the three bolts broke off, the only way I can sort of get the strut assembly higher is by jacking it up and resting something under it.

        I thought about taking the whole control arm off, do I have to drop the cross member?
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        • KenC
          King of Kegstands
          • Oct 2003
          • 14396

          #5
          No. Just look under there and you'll see. Undo the inner ball joint. Though that ones prob seized as well.
          Originally posted by Gruelius
          and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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          • OBryan562
            Banned
            • Jul 2011
            • 527

            #6
            jack up the whole thing and just knock it with a hammer.

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            • bimmerboy8912
              Noobie
              • Apr 2010
              • 34

              #7
              Ha...ha...haaa....yeah I had this problem and I knocked the crap out of the bolt with a hammer, stripped the bolt, and had to get a new ball joint.

              First of all...to fix those three bolts on the top of the strut, you're gonna need 3 of each of these (just get them from BavAuto.com):
              BMW Part #: 31336765744
              BMW Part #: 07119904295

              ^^M8 pins and self-locking nuts

              Put your strut back in place and constantly hitting the top of that bolt with a hammer should do the trick. May take a lot of constant whacking.You're going to want to use a die to get the thread back into shape because chances are you'll probably damage the thread with all that hammer action.

              As a last ditch effort, get a torch and heat it up. You'll ruin the rubber on the control arm ball joint, but hey, replacing the ball joint or even the control arm is about $700 less than replacing the strut housing.

              And no, you don't have to lower the subframe to remove the control arm, but you are going to need a mallet to knock the crap out of the subframe bolt one you take the nut off. It WILL NOT come out easily.

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              • nrubenstein
                No R3VLimiter
                • Feb 2009
                • 3148

                #8
                Get thee a balljoint separator.
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                • Killacortes
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • May 2010
                  • 1937

                  #9
                  Damn man that sounds like a mess. If you didn't have time to get the ball joInt separator this is what I did. I rented a pickle fork from autozone and wedged it in between the ball joint and the arm. Instead of pushing down on it to separate it. I put a jack underneath it and jacked it up. It popped off pretty easily.
                  Originally posted by blunttech
                  r3v does not fuck around. First you get banned, then they shoot you

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                  • 5Toes
                    Banned
                    • May 2010
                    • 9836

                    #10
                    Yeah mine wont come off either. I have put a fat wooden dowel on it and hammered away. Lots of liquid wrench on it too. Aint budging

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                    • KenC
                      King of Kegstands
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 14396

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 5Toes
                      Yeah mine wont come off either. I have put a fat wooden dowel on it and hammered away. Lots of liquid wrench on it too. Aint budging
                      Ball joint separator. They're cheap at harbor freight.
                      Originally posted by Gruelius
                      and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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                      • 5Toes
                        Banned
                        • May 2010
                        • 9836

                        #12
                        Im talking about the bolt on the subframe. The other ball joint came off easy!

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                        • toointoxicated60
                          Grease Monkey
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 355

                          #13
                          +1 if your trying to save the ball joint. If not pickle fork and a big hammer.

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                          • KenC
                            King of Kegstands
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 14396

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 5Toes
                            Im talking about the bolt on the subframe. The other ball joint came off easy!
                            Hammer the top of it. Wood will cushion it too much. It needs the shock to break it free.
                            Originally posted by Gruelius
                            and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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                            • 5Toes
                              Banned
                              • May 2010
                              • 9836

                              #15
                              Thats what I figured. It is raining so ahrd right now, hope the weather clears up so I can get it done tomorrow

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