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  • Justin B
    Sikky Nar Nar
    • Mar 2005
    • 4273
    #1

    Ohhh a bushing goes there? Whats thaaaaat?? =( Poof!

    Well yeah. So, my left CAB inner delrin sleve that the CA slides through decided to go on strike. I havent been driving my car for the last couple days because I was beginning to hear/feel a nasty knocking sound when I would apply my brakes. Im kind of surprised that the wheel didnt wobble like it did when my stock rubber bushing was destroyed, it would just THUNK when I apply the brakes and again when I removed my foot. I really dont know if I should be surprised or not either. The side that blew up this time is the same side that was all messed up earlier with the stock bushings...thats why I replaced them. I didnt sand anything either to make it possibly remotely abrasive, and the old rubber ones broke down in the webbing not in contact with the CA anyway to mar it up.
    What wonderful luck, huh? They have MAYBE 3000 miles on them :(. The other side is perfect....
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    • mrsleeve
      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
      • Mar 2005
      • 16385
      #2
      dude, eye ball arms. you wont have that prob
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        • Justin B
          Sikky Nar Nar
          • Mar 2005
          • 4273
          #3
          Who knows, they have a delrin sleve too (if you're referring to THR) whatever scrubbed this one away would do it to anything else :/ Im not going to go full solid mount though, even the THR ones would probably be too harsh IMO. Looks like ill be replacing the CA though too, it seems like it has been marred up now.

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            • nando
              Moderator
              • Nov 2003
              • 34827
              #4
              I'll stick to rubber M3 parts, thanks.
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                • Justin B
                  Sikky Nar Nar
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 4273
                  #5
                  Thats actually what I am thinking about switching to :)

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                    • King Luis
                      Mod Crazy
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 737
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Justin B
                      Who knows, they have a delrin sleve too (if you're referring to THR) whatever scrubbed this one away would do it to anything else :/ Im not going to go full solid mount though, even the THR ones would probably be too harsh IMO. Looks like ill be replacing the CA though too, it seems like it has been marred up now.
                      i have the thr eyeballs arms and i thought they were going to be too harsh also. you do hear more road noise but the ride is nothing bad.

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                        • nando
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 34827
                          #7
                          that's only if yours don't pop.
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                            • Addissimo
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 1820
                              #8
                              I drove on my bushings like that for 4k miles before i got the replacement darin insert in there... Somehow they still fit. I hated myself for installing them backwards- I blame it on working on my car outside in 30 degree weather at that time.

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                                • nefarious7907
                                  E30 Enthusiast
                                  • Jan 2005
                                  • 1170
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by nando
                                  I'll stick to rubber M3 parts, thanks.
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                                    • Digitalwave
                                      is a poseur
                                      • Oct 2003
                                      • 6277
                                      #10
                                      Your bushings shouldn't be failing like that... I'd be looking for a problem on a larger scale with your suspension.

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                                        • Addissimo
                                          E30 Mastermind
                                          • Mar 2004
                                          • 1820
                                          #11
                                          dude... you have them turned inside out. get a new insert and re-install them the right way. there is a lip on the other side of the bushing that needs to be on the rear side of the car to hold that insert in. just email bmw bushings to get the phone number of the person who makes those inserts- they'll send you a pair for free.

                                          -Addis

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                                            • Digitalwave
                                              is a poseur
                                              • Oct 2003
                                              • 6277
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Addissimo
                                              dude... you have them turned inside out. get a new insert and re-install them the right way. there is a lip on the other side of the bushing that needs to be on the rear side of the car to hold that insert in.

                                              -Addis
                                              That's true... didn't notice that.

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                                                • Justin B
                                                  Sikky Nar Nar
                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                  • 4273
                                                  #13
                                                  Umm, please explain where this 'lip' was, because one side is entirely flat (that you see) and the other, the urethane donut extends somewhat past the delrin insert but if memory serves me correctly does not overlap it. This hole in the urethane perfectly allows the end of the CA to sit in there, I think rubber bushings have something similar. Otherwise if that dip wasnt there for the end of the CA and was intended to be a bump stop to keep part of the bushing in, that shouldnt be coming out anyway, why wouldnt it have entirely covered it up on that side? Installing them 'your way' I would end up with a shallow hole in the urethane, perfectly sized to allow the bushing to further slide over the CA just a bit, facing backwards not doing a darn thing and probably not even overlapping the delrin anyway. If it did, just like what I said above why did it just so happen to not cover up that entire side of delrin, and have the perfect size hole to slide over the CA? The end nub of the CA that is extending out of the bushing I think is just about the same length that they extend out of rubber bushings too. Im pretty sure they did, its been a little while since I did it. I think I knew what backwards was, and the other side is installed identically. If you look closely the insert piece wasnt pushed out either, it seems to have been ground away. I just really dont believe that the lip of urethane I think you're talking about is intended to be a 'stop' at all. Im going to take my CAB's off soon and look at them more closely but its raining right now. As far as Im concerned right now about the argument in favor of the lip, is its a little far fetched. Why is my pass side cab still perfect? Not pressed out or ground at at all, and if that delrin needed a lip to stay on the metal where is the lip for the whole outer urethane piece? Thats right, its all molded together...

                                                  As far as my front suspension goes, here's everything I did in the front at the same time...they were new CAB's (obviously), new ball joints, new tierods, new shocks, new springs, new strut bearings, bigger swaybar set relatively soft for now and a strut bar but that shouldnt have anything to do with it in this case anyway.
                                                  Last edited by Justin B; 11-06-2005, 12:15 PM.

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                                                    • nando
                                                      Moderator
                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                      • 34827
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Addissimo
                                                      dude... you have them turned inside out. get a new insert and re-install them the right way. there is a lip on the other side of the bushing that needs to be on the rear side of the car to hold that insert in. just email bmw bushings to get the phone number of the person who makes those inserts- they'll send you a pair for free.

                                                      -Addis
                                                      get some glasses dude.. it's on correctly, here's my right side offset bushing:
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                                                        • Justin B
                                                          Sikky Nar Nar
                                                          • Mar 2005
                                                          • 4273
                                                          #15
                                                          Eh. I'll figure something out anyway.
                                                          Nando - I think what addissimo was saying is that the front side should have been facing backwards, and the rear side facing forwards, not that I have them in backwards as offset in the wrong direction. Then again I could be wrong. I do however still think I put them in correctly though as rambled about in my post above.

                                                          As far as calling to have the mfr resend one bushing, afaik RTRS no longer makes bushings. I bought them from Bav auto without realizing they were the same thing being sold by another site (below) and price matched it after I recieved them.

                                                          BAD NEWS
                                                          from R.T.R.S. As of 8-10-05.
                                                          -blah blah blah-
                                                          They do not have any plans to file bankruptcy, they have just decided to close the doors.
                                                          Parts production has already ceased.
                                                          .......
                                                          http://www.suspension.com/bmw2.html something may have changed since then but I may just go with rubber bushings.

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