Is RTAB bushing material selection critical?

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  • Andre3127
    Wrencher
    • Dec 2017
    • 291

    #1

    Is RTAB bushing material selection critical?

    I'm planning on dropping my subframe soon and replacing all my RTAB/subframe/sway bar link/diff bushings. I'm planning on machining the bushings out of delrin, but I thought about using PVC. It machines quite well, and is significantly cheaper.

    So, my question.... is plastic selection critical at all? Is the difference between delrin and PVC worth worrying about? Or is a hard plastic just a hard plastic in instances like this?
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  • earthwormjim
    E30 Addict
    • Jul 2014
    • 434

    #2
    PVC is a lot softer than Acetal. Isn't PVC subject to cracking too?
    You're already saving a lot by machining your own parts, is the material cost that much higher for something as small as a bushing?
    Last edited by earthwormjim; 05-28-2018, 02:55 PM.

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    • varg
      No R3VLimiter
      • May 2014
      • 3283

      #3
      Don't use Delrin, it'll probably drive you nuts squeaking.

      UHMWPE is a suitable material, Condor makes bushings out of that.

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      • Andre3127
        Wrencher
        • Dec 2017
        • 291

        #4
        Originally posted by earthwormjim
        PVC is a lot softer than Acetal. Isn't PVC subject to cracking too?
        You're already saving a lot by machining your own parts, is the material cost that much higher for something as small as a bushing?
        I've machined both. PVC is harder.
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        • AndrewBird
          The Mad Scientist
          • Oct 2003
          • 11892

          #5
          Originally posted by Andre3127
          I've machined both. PVC is harder.
          Looking at the specs pulled from the web, PVC has a durometer around 80D, while delrin (acetal) is around Rockwell M90, so delrin is a bit harder than PVC.

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          At any rate, I would not use either for a bushing. I'd stick with polyurethane. UHMW is also used, but it doesn't work as well in high load applications because of its tendency to dent and not rebound completely.

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          • wworm
            E30 Mastermind
            • Dec 2016
            • 1719

            #6
            PVC shatters under stress, wouldnt use it in any bushing application ever, especially considering that it has zero lubricating properties so itll be loud as fuck and then explode and everything will go to shit.

            Stick with known materials, theres a reason everyone uses poly and delrin
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            • earthwormjim
              E30 Addict
              • Jul 2014
              • 434

              #7
              Originally posted by Andre3127
              I've machined both. PVC is harder.

              It's definitely not harder. It also has hardly any fatigue life, and cracks or shatters when stressed.

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