Do not buy G60 shocks.

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  • Aptyp
    R3V OG
    • Feb 2008
    • 6584

    #16
    name of this thread needs to be changed, because it will mess with people's heads.

    PS: they are 4" shorter... you take one inch off the strut housing, and throw in a 3" spacer.


    I cut off 1.5" and tossed in a 2.5" spaces, and went with a 6" spring

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    • Moto-Mucci
      R3VLimited
      • Oct 2008
      • 2058

      #17
      Yea, I don't think I can change it can I? I attempted to and gave up.

      And thank you, finally some numbers.

      What did you do about the collar nut? I was thinking about getting the shop to weld the stock threads back ontop after I chop the tubes so that I can run the stock collar nuts. Maybe there's an easier way?

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      • 2002maniac
        R3V Elite
        • Feb 2005
        • 4260

        #18
        Originally posted by Mucci
        A buddy of mine just sent me this - to clarify things for others thinking about the GC + E30 Bilstein Sport setup - here's them on the lowest setting on his car

        That's shit. I can't justify rocking nice wheels with 2" of wheel gap and NO suspension travel. Looks like I'm going to be taking a $140 hit from the welding I got done.

        I need SPECIFICS on the G60 setup. Can anybody help me out and put down some actual #'s?
        He's obviously not running camber plates or he's running really long springs. If I had lowered mine all the way the IS lip would be about 1/2" off the ground.

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        • Moto-Mucci
          R3VLimited
          • Oct 2008
          • 2058

          #19
          I have the same setup as him - HD control arms with M3 offset bushings, and a bunch of other new stock ish. So no camber plates.

          And I'm going to assume I'm in the same boat as him since the GC only coil down 2.25" and this is my stock ride height:



          That's def going to need more then 2"
          Last edited by Moto-Mucci; 04-14-2009, 09:44 AM.

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          • rwh11385
            lance_entities
            • Oct 2003
            • 18403

            #20
            You are complaining about ride height / gap and don't have camber plates?!? (Or your buddy is)

            Quit being stupid. Do it the right way.

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            • Moto-Mucci
              R3VLimited
              • Oct 2008
              • 2058

              #21
              The offset M3 CAB's give you a good amount of camber, and you still have the ride comfort of bushings, not metal against metal. This is a daily. So was his.





              And even with camber plates, to get a decent stance out of that your shock travel is shit.

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              • rwh11385
                lance_entities
                • Oct 2003
                • 18403

                #22
                Originally posted by Mucci
                And even with camber plates, to get a decent stance out of that your shock travel is shit.
                You have no idea what you are talking about. A slightly wiser man would just stop.

                Try running right sized tires, 6"/5.5" springs, and have stiff enough springs to keep your oil pan off the ground, with camber plates, and you should be alright with Koni's.
                Last edited by rwh11385; 04-15-2009, 04:12 AM.

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                • Moto-Mucci
                  R3VLimited
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 2058

                  #23
                  Sorry I stopped listening after all that elitist garbage started flowing

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                  • gearheadE30
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 3734

                    #24
                    To keep the threads, you have to cut a lower section out of the tube; you don't just cut the top off. After you cut the section out, you weld the top alf back on to retain threads and swaybar tabs if you have them. Then again, maybe I'm not understanding your question.

                    Project M42 Turbo

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                    • Moto-Mucci
                      R3VLimited
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 2058

                      #25
                      No, that's exactly how I was envisioning it to keep the threads. Good to know.

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                      • Moto-Mucci
                        R3VLimited
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 2058

                        #26
                        Alright, I came to an issue last night while drilling out the collar nuts to accept the thicker G60 shafts.

                        What did you guys do about the O-ring? Since the O-ring for the G60 shocks comes attached to the collar nut (which cant be used) there currently isn't an O-ring at the bottom of the shaft. I tried to pry it off the G60 collar nut but it's on there pretty good. i don't think I can do it without destroying it in the process.

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                        • Jand3rson
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 37587

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Mucci
                          The offset M3 CAB's give you a good amount of camber
                          M3 CAB's don't affect camber, they change caster.

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                          • Moto-Mucci
                            R3VLimited
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 2058

                            #28
                            Yea, I just found that out as I installed them a couple days ago. I was misinformed.

                            The amount of camber in the above shot is what I'm looking for anyhow, that's what's important. Enough to get 9's in back there with a good drop and not have to worry too much about rubbage.

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                            • JennsBeamer
                              Member
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 83

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Mucci
                              The offset M3 CAB's give you a good amount of camber,
                              Janderson busted you there - you are showing your true colors and lack of understanding about suspension setup when you make comments like that.

                              and you still have the ride comfort of bushings, not metal against metal.
                              :roll: You can get camber plates with a urethane insert - K-Macs, and I know there are others.

                              Get the right size c/o springs with the right rates and the shorty shocks work.
                              Yes, a girl with an e30 . . . on a forum!

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                              • sticksdaman
                                R3VLimited
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 2987

                                #30
                                Originally posted by bimmerteck
                                I haven't modified the strut tube yet. other than cutting off most of the spring perch.

                                The ground control setup came with new nuts for the top of the strut tube. they worked perfectly.

                                I got the Koni's straight from GC as well as the 5ish inch spacers.



                                I'll found some pics of the setup we put on mike's e28. You can see the spacers and new nuts on the far left.



                                This is my car the night I installed the coilovers, with them adjusted all the way up. They now reside at a much lower altitude.:D
                                Looks awesome man
                                Do you have any "lower altitude" pics? :p
                                Are you also running camber plates?
                                Originally posted by ebelements
                                Also, for those who don't know, negative camber is the greatest thing since sliced bread(panera). Even tire wear is for city busses and the elderly.

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