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  • CarsSuck
    E30 Modder
    • Oct 2005
    • 968

    #1

    Springs and Ride Quality

    I currently have BavAuto springs and Bilstein sports (all else is stock) I want less body roll, but given where i live i dont know if i can swing something as aggressive as say, IE stg 3s. So my question is, how much worse is the ride quality of the IEs over stock/other sport springs.
    --Will
  • StereoInstaller1
    GAS
    • Jul 2004
    • 22679

    #2
    Will, have you thought about better sway bars, or urethane mounts for yours?
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    • Jordan
      R3V OG
      • Oct 2003
      • 12907

      #3
      BavAuto springs are very soft and saggy. If you want less bodyroll get some large diameter swaybars. They won't affect ride quality much, and will reduce roll significantly.
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      • CarsSuck
        E30 Modder
        • Oct 2005
        • 968

        #4
        twere my very thoughts. But the question stands, how bout that ride quality?
        --Will

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        • Jordan
          R3V OG
          • Oct 2003
          • 12907

          #5
          IE's are roughly twice and some change stiffer then your BavAuto springs.
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          • hankook_killer
            Noobie
            • Dec 2005
            • 18

            #6
            does anyone know how H&R sports compare to BavAuto? those might be good.

            and if you want to eliminate roll and maintain nice ride quality, swaybars are a good route.
            new RS-2s are stick icky good. w00t.

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            • Digitalwave
              is a poseur
              • Oct 2003
              • 6276

              #7
              BavAutos are up there with Eibach Pro's as some of the softest springs available. H&R Sports and some sway bars will probably transform your car into exactly what you are looking for.

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              • CarsSuck
                E30 Modder
                • Oct 2005
                • 968

                #8
                Ill start with sway bars. You guys ever installed the reinforcements (i.e. TMS)?
                --Will

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                • nando
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 34827

                  #9
                  reinforcements aren't optional with bigger swaybars. you'll eventually rip the dinky stock mounts out - hell mine are bent up just from the stock swaybar.
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                  • StereoInstaller1
                    GAS
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 22679

                    #10
                    Factory rear stock swaybar endlink broke in half on my car. I am gonna do some IE or ST bars with upgraded mounts come spring.

                    I am using B+G springs. From what I can tell, they are soft, but not very soft. I like the ride and do not want stiffer, but I want a flatter corner. I also want the ass end to hook up, so I want the adjustable end links.

                    More food for thought.

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                    • Mystikal
                      Moderator
                      Wheel Fitment Expert
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 9602

                      #11
                      I'll chime in.

                      Springs don't really dictate ride quality. Dampers and tires do. The only significant difference is between linear and progressive springs, where you can definitely feel the uneasy jittering of GCs.

                      For an example, I have driven in two different E30s, both with stock dampers. One had IE Stage III's, the other had Eibach Pro-Kits. There really wasn't a difference in ride between the two, they both felt damn near stock. For those that don't know, the IE's have close to double the stiffness on paper.

                      Dampers and tires. High spring rates are fun and prevent you from running out of shock travel.

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                      • tonytony
                        Knee deep in poopie
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 3498

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Mystikal
                        I'll chime in.

                        Springs don't really dictate ride quality. Dampers and tires do. The only significant difference is between linear and progressive springs, where you can definitely feel the uneasy jittering of GCs.

                        For an example, I have driven in two different E30s, both with stock dampers. One had IE Stage III's, the other had Eibach Pro-Kits. There really wasn't a difference in ride between the two, they both felt damn near stock. For those that don't know, the IE's have close to double the stiffness on paper.

                        Dampers and tires. High spring rates are fun and prevent you from running out of shock travel.
                        I agree with that statement. i just recently swapped out my garbage soft/saggy tokico springs for IE3s for the time being, and ride quality was hardly noticible in daily driving until i the took hard corners and bodyroll was very minimal. Still waiting on my konis

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                        • CarsSuck
                          E30 Modder
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 968

                          #13
                          Well how are the roads where you guys live? In the D.C. area there are a lot of potholes and the highways have terrible joints and there are speedbumps galore. That said, when the my dad put in the BavAuto springs there was no difference in ride quality. The Bilstein Sports are what really firmed things up.
                          --Will

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                          • rwh11385
                            lance_entities
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 18403

                            #14
                            H&R sports ride well with Bilstein sports.

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                            • Mystikal
                              Moderator
                              Wheel Fitment Expert
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 9602

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CarsSuck
                              Well how are the roads where you guys live? In the D.C. area there are a lot of potholes and the highways have terrible joints and there are speedbumps galore. That said, when the my dad put in the BavAuto springs there was no difference in ride quality. The Bilstein Sports are what really firmed things up.
                              Terrible roads. That said, upping my spring rates (375/475) actually made the ride better; there is no longer the issue of bottoming out (what REALLY hurts).

                              Bilstein Sports ride very firmly. Lots of compression dampening, to help cover up their lack of travel. Koni SAs ride noticeably softer, and have better rebound + travel.

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