iX Bilstein HD.. the ones for going lower?

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    E30 Modder
    • May 2012
    • 834

    #1

    iX Bilstein HD.. the ones for going lower?

    Hello, are iX Bilstein HD the inserts i want to purchase if i am planning on going lower for a DD. I will be running ground control coils. 650/450 with stock rear shocks (unless someone suggests otherwise) and plan to section the front struts 1.5 in and run a 1.5 in spacer because the ix's are 3in shorter to my understanding.

    Sorry for making a new thread but when searching there are so many arguments about this it is hard to decide whether i am right.

    Here are the inserts I plan to order:
    http://www.partsgeek.com/gbproducts/...FYKDQgod4hkAEA
    View my build thread. http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=287724
  • Killacortes
    E30 Mastermind
    • May 2010
    • 1937

    #2
    From what I've read hd's are okay for the rear not for the front. They would be okay for a minimal drop but not for a really low set up. I think the hd would not last as long on a low set up
    Originally posted by blunttech
    r3v does not fuck around. First you get banned, then they shoot you

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      E30 Modder
      • May 2012
      • 834

      #3
      Anyone else have input? Or a better price friendly suggestion?
      View my build thread. http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=287724

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      • camip
        E30 Fanatic
        • Nov 2011
        • 1253

        #4
        I thought g60 corrado bilstiens were the best choice for the front. Idk about the rear currently researching the same thing.

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          E30 Modder
          • May 2012
          • 834

          #5
          ALright, ill look into those as well. Let me know if you find anything out about the rears.
          View my build thread. http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=287724

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            E30 Modder
            • May 2012
            • 834

            #6
            Any input on these? http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-New-Shocks...0547e1&vxp=mtr
            View my build thread. http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=287724

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              E30 Modder
              • May 2012
              • 834

              #7
              Im now reading much on how the g60 are not a good option due to them not being the correct size and lots seem to say the iX Bilsteins are the way to go.. can someone confirm this? ANd where is a good place to purchase them through?
              View my build thread. http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=287724

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              • JGood
                R3V OG
                • Jan 2004
                • 7959

                #8
                You can use ix Bilstein HD's in normal e30 RWD struts, as long as you use a spacer, since they are 3" shorter. If you want to section your housings to go lower, you just shorten the spacer by the same amount that you shorten the housing. This is how you go lower without bottoming out the strut insert.

                However, they are not even remotely close to being stuff enough for a 450/650 setup. Even RWD e30 Bilstein sports aren't really stiff enough, and the ix HD's are about half the rates of the RWD Sports. So it will be very bouncy unless you get them re-valved.

                I'm currently running that setup - ix HD's front, normal rwd Bilstein Sports rear, 450/650, front shorted 1" and using a 2" insert spacer. It's bouncy. Definitely not ideal for daily driving and terrible for handling. I'll be sending mine out for revalving.
                85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                e30 restoration and V8 swap
                24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                • CHIF8008
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3447

                  #9
                  im running IX hD's up front with 2 3/4 sectioned out. no spacer. rides fine to me. i DD the car as well
                  -FREEDOM- is cruisin at 80, windows down and listening to the perfect song-thinking "this is it"
                  -The Beauty in the Tragedy-
                  MECHANIC SMASH!!- (you all know you do it)
                  Got Drop?? ;-)
                  Originally posted by JinormusJ
                  But of course
                  E30s are know to be notoriously really really really ridiculously good looking

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                  • ak-
                    R3V OG
                    • May 2009
                    • 12422

                    #10
                    What Jgood said is spot on.
                    I've ran this this setup for 2 years now. If you want the ideal setup goin this route, you'd want them revalved and internal bump stops shortened for a more proper handeling ride.

                    With that said, mine aren't revalved and I have similar rates as Jgood.
                    I'm super happy and have the intention of revalving in the future.

                    My advice is to either do it proper at once or go with BC's and get it over with all together since suspension travel isn't sacrificed no matter what height you adjust and it comes with camber plates, RSM's..

                    1991 325iS turbo

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                    • JGood
                      R3V OG
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 7959

                      #11
                      Originally posted by CHIF8008
                      im running IX hD's up front with 2 3/4 sectioned out. no spacer. rides fine to me. i DD the car as well
                      No offense, but at the ride height you're at, you're claim of 'riding fine' is extremely subjective.

                      Your shocks aren't doing anything. The springs are completely overpowering them, the shocks are just along for the ride, as if you didn't have shocks installed at all. Maybe you don't notice it, but anyone who is looking for a suspension setup that works properly would not be satisfied with that setup.

                      OP, if you just want your car to be low, and don't care about proper damping, then maybe you'd be satisfied with stock iX HD's. A lot of people on this forum don't seem to mind.
                      85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                      e30 restoration and V8 swap
                      24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                      • CHIF8008
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3447

                        #12
                        none taken, different preferences and applications.
                        -FREEDOM- is cruisin at 80, windows down and listening to the perfect song-thinking "this is it"
                        -The Beauty in the Tragedy-
                        MECHANIC SMASH!!- (you all know you do it)
                        Got Drop?? ;-)
                        Originally posted by JinormusJ
                        But of course
                        E30s are know to be notoriously really really really ridiculously good looking

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                          E30 Modder
                          • May 2012
                          • 834

                          #13
                          I know with going low you lose some ride comfort, unless spending much $$$ which is not a possibility at this time. I think I am going to go with ix hd's for the time being, and down the road will also have them revalved in the future.

                          is $114 per shock a fair price to pay for new? I cant find any used :(
                          View my build thread. http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=287724

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                          • CHIF8008
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3447

                            #14
                            i think i found mine for cheaper, new, as a pair. i forget where...
                            -FREEDOM- is cruisin at 80, windows down and listening to the perfect song-thinking "this is it"
                            -The Beauty in the Tragedy-
                            MECHANIC SMASH!!- (you all know you do it)
                            Got Drop?? ;-)
                            Originally posted by JinormusJ
                            But of course
                            E30s are know to be notoriously really really really ridiculously good looking

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                            • Link
                              E30 Modder
                              • May 2012
                              • 834

                              #15
                              If someone could point me to a cheaper place for a pair I would be very happy.
                              View my build thread. http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=287724

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