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  • LittleEcker
    Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 83

    #1

    Lowering question

    Hi friends,
    I have probably the most cringing teenage question there is, but I'm still dying to know what you guys can do to help me out. What's the cheapest way I can lower my later model e30 without making anyone turn over in their grave? I'm not super concerned with performance but I am NOT going to cut my springs or anything like that. I'm not trying to upgrade my handling, but I don't want to make it any worse. If it matters, I'm on 14's and it's an is. Any ideas?
    Thanks,
    -Ecker
    -Experience is what you have right after you need it

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  • Ether-D
    R3VLimited
    • Sep 2011
    • 2838

    #2
    $200 lowering springs.
    Originally posted by Andy.B
    Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
    1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
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    • LittleEcker
      Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 83

      #3
      What kind of springs though?
      And shouldn't I swap the shocks as well?
      -Experience is what you have right after you need it

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      • Ether-D
        R3VLimited
        • Sep 2011
        • 2838

        #4
        I was going for cheapest.
        $700-Bavauto sport springs with bilstein sports. It will add value to your car as well because of broad appeal.
        I think you can get shock/spring combo for cheaper, but it won't be very nice.
        Originally posted by Andy.B
        Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
        1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
        ~~~~~~~~~~
        I was born on 3/25…
        ~~~~~~~~~~

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        • RedReplicant
          Wrencher
          • Oct 2009
          • 270

          #5
          My budget setup is the Ground Control coilover conversion kit ($447 shipped), 98 Camaro Z28 KYB Gas-A-Just struts out back ($73 shipped) with 2x McMaster Carr sleeve bearings ($14 shipped), and MR2 KYB AGX struts - pn KYB 765016 ($170 shipped) with the strut shaft milled down to fit the stock front suspension bushing and a spacer inside the strut tube.

          Cut off the stock front spring perch, lower both adjusters all the way front/rear and it's somewhat low - front sits an inch or less above a 14" tire and the rear tire is tucked an inch or so. Get a race camber plate setup up front and you can lop off another inch. You can lose another inch in the rear by removing the coil adjuster... then you can lose another 2" up front by sectioning the housing.

          It DOES NOT get cheaper than this. It will handle well. I went 440lb/650lb springs. $704 for a legit setup is hard to beat in E30 land. I'll post pics of my car tomorrow.
          Last edited by RedReplicant; 05-11-2014, 04:08 AM.
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          • AndrewBird
            The Mad Scientist
            • Oct 2003
            • 11892

            #6
            I would try and find a set of used lowering springs. H&R Race or Sport, Ireland Engineering Stage 3, Suspension Techniques - All good brands.

            Definitely get struts. Short springs require shorter struts. Bilstein Sports or Koni are your best two options. You might be able to find a good set used, but I'd be weary of used struts. They might be blown.

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            • DER E30
              R3VLimited
              • Sep 2013
              • 2343

              #7
              Originally posted by RedReplicant
              My budget setup is the Ground Control coilover conversion kit ($447 shipped), 98 Camaro Z28 KYB Gas-A-Just struts out back ($73 shipped) with 2x McMaster Carr sleeve bearings ($14 shipped), and MR2 KYB AGX struts - pn KYB 765016 ($170 shipped) with the strut shaft milled down to fit the stock front suspension bushing and a spacer inside the strut tube.

              Cut off the stock front spring perch, lower both adjusters all the way front/rear and it's somewhat low - front sits an inch or less above a 14" tire and the rear tire is tucked an inch or so. Get a race camber plate setup up front and you can lop off another inch. You can lose another inch in the rear by removing the coil adjuster... then you can lose another 2" up front by sectioning the housing.

              It DOES NOT get cheaper than this. It will handle well. I went 440lb/650lb springs. $704 for a legit setup is hard to beat in E30 land. I'll post pics of my car tomorrow.
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              • nando
                Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 34827

                #8
                Originally posted by Ether-D
                I was going for cheapest.
                $700-Bavauto sport springs with bilstein sports. It will add value to your car as well because of broad appeal.
                I think you can get shock/spring combo for cheaper, but it won't be very nice.
                nooooo. anything but bavauto springs! even cut springs may be better. Seriously - they would be stiffer. :|

                the simplest would be a drop in spring and some sort of sport shock (bilsteins, maybe). the budget coilover setup isn't a bad idea either because you could upgrade the struts and swap out spring rates later if you wanted.
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                • ThatOneEuroE30
                  R3V OG
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 8626

                  #9
                  Joms or racelands would work just to be low until you can save for a real set like gc's or something similar.


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                  • Ether-D
                    R3VLimited
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 2838

                    #10
                    Originally posted by nando
                    nooooo. anything but bavauto springs! even cut springs may be better. Seriously - they would be stiffer. :|
                    Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one, and they all stink.

                    Bavauto springs are absolutely great for a DD. But somebody sometime said they were too soft and the whole internet believed them.
                    Originally posted by Andy.B
                    Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
                    1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
                    ~~~~~~~~~~
                    I was born on 3/25…
                    ~~~~~~~~~~

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                    • nando
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 34827

                      #11
                      they are too soft. they are SOFTER than stock springs. lol.
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                      • Ether-D
                        R3VLimited
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 2838

                        #12
                        Yes, they are to soft for a track car. But they are lower than stock & comfortable. Did you read the first post?
                        Originally posted by Andy.B
                        Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
                        1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
                        ~~~~~~~~~~
                        I was born on 3/25…
                        ~~~~~~~~~~

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                        • nando
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 34827

                          #13
                          he didn't say he wanted soft. he said he wanted to lower his car on a budget. there's no savings for going with bavauto springs - they're a waste of money, nobody is going to want to buy them from him later.
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                          • Ether-D
                            R3VLimited
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 2838

                            #14
                            Wrong. I'll buy them when he's done with them. I love em.
                            Originally posted by Andy.B
                            Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
                            1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
                            ~~~~~~~~~~
                            I was born on 3/25…
                            ~~~~~~~~~~

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                            • LittleEcker
                              Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 83

                              #15
                              So okay if I get some $400> coilovers just for daily driving (not track) until I can afford something nice, would that be the end of the world? Is there any potential for them just to break on the road or is that really just a track issue?
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