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  • Massimo
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    • Jan 2008
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    #31
    Originally posted by IronmanE30
    I was told that some were welded and made into 2 piece. I have never seen them. If you have a picture of them please post it up. I would like to see a close up of the lips where they connect to the centers. I have seen two different lip designs but with rims this old it is hard to say if someone swapped out the lips on the other set or not. It appears that these have never been broken down before but that too is hard to say.

    Cheers,

    Jim
    That is interesting ill post some pics tonight I have the wheels off at the moment so shouldn't be to hard.

    Here are the pics.

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    Last edited by Massimo; 10-19-2011, 12:01 AM.
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    • AC Nico
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      • Nov 2003
      • 3619

      #32
      definately not original oz screws and nuts ;)
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      • IronmanE30
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        • Sep 2009
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        #33
        I think those are 3 piece wheels. Hartge design was different than BBS and look like 2 piece but are actually 3 piece. Can you post a picture of the front of the front of the wheels?

        Cheers,

        Jim
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        • Massimo
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          • Jan 2008
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          #34
          Originally posted by AC Nico
          definately not original oz screws and nuts ;)
          Yeh they are Hartge Japan from what I can find they were made by Volk.

          Originally posted by IronmanE30
          I think those are 3 piece wheels. Hartge design was different than BBS and look like 2 piece but are actually 3 piece. Can you post a picture of the front of the front of the wheels?

          Cheers,

          Jim
          Here is a few more photos from when I first got them let me know if you want some other ones. The only pictures I do not have are of the seam weld.



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          • IronmanE30
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            • Sep 2009
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            #35
            Very interesting, thank you for the pictures. Are the two screws on the right hand side of the back of the center to hold on the spacer or are they solid without a spacer. If it is a spacer what size is it? I had heard about these and from the previous pictures it looked like the spokes were thinner than the ones I am restoring. 4X100 is great for those of us that are staying with the 4 lug.

            Cheers,

            Jim
            Last edited by IronmanE30; 10-26-2011, 06:06 PM.
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            • Massimo
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              • Jan 2008
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              #36
              Originally posted by IronmanE30
              Very interesting, thank you for the pictures. Are the two screws on the right hand side of the back of the center to hold on the spacer or are they solid without a spacer. If it is a spacer what size is it? I had heard about these and from the previous pictures it looked like the spokes were thinner than the ones I am restoring. 4X100 is great for those of us that are staying with the 4 lug.

              Cheers,

              Jim
              That screw is for the cap. It has a Allen key bolt that holds the cap to the wheel. No spacer. I would love to get a set of OZ Hartge 3pc and compare but that are as rare as ghost shit here.
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              • IronmanE30
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                • Sep 2009
                • 2121

                #37
                One step closer to getting the rims done. I picked up my wheels a couple of days ago in OC. They have been trued and look perfect. I could not be happier with the job that Inland Wheel Center did. Once they filled the curb rash and welded the one barrel they put them on a lathe and did the finishing touches to make them like new. Thanks to Jack for all his help and guidance with finishing these wheels!



                Now I will break them down and have the bolts/nuts chromed, lips polished and the barrels and centers painted silver. Once that is done they will coat the entire rim with ceramic clear coat for easy maintenance.

                Cheers,

                Jim
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                • Emre
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                  • Sep 2007
                  • 1228

                  #38
                  Originally posted by IronmanE30
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                  You sure these haven't been filled and redrilled at some point? I'm surprised to see the holes covering the stampings. Totally inconsistent with the quality control I'm used to seeing from O.Z. Racing!
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                  • IronmanE30
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                    • Sep 2009
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Emre
                    You sure these haven't been filled and redrilled at some point? I'm surprised to see the holes covering the stampings. Totally inconsistent with the quality control I'm used to seeing from O.Z. Racing!
                    This is the way that Hartge/OZ did the 4X100. I have seen another set and they are the same as these. Look near the beginning of the thread and you will see that they have the serial numbers matching the Hartge catalog. I was concerned at first but have confirmed that they are original 4X100 bolt pattern.

                    Cheers,

                    Jim
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                    • IronmanE30
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                      • Sep 2009
                      • 2121

                      #40
                      Tear down complete, next week it's off for the final finishing touches.

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                      Cheers,

                      Jim
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                      • kalib0y
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                        • Dec 2004
                        • 3620

                        #41
                        Jim, those are my favorite wheels! And you will love the R888 tires
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                        • IronmanE30
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                          • Sep 2009
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                          #42
                          Ryan, I am still thinking about which tire to put on the rims. I borrowed those from a friend for the test fitment because I heard they were about the widest 235's out there. The R888's are very pricy so my pocketbook may not be big enough for them. I have been looking at the Falkens, Yokohama's and a few others to see if I can find something with an aggressive tread pattern that are not as expensive as the R888's. Maybe Santa will come through, I have been trying to be a good boy.

                          Cheers,

                          Jim
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                          • kalib0y
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                            • Dec 2004
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by IronmanE30
                            Ryan, I am still thinking about which tire to put on the rims. I borrowed those from a friend for the test fitment because I heard they were about the widest 235's out there. The R888's are very pricy so my pocketbook may not be big enough for them. I have been looking at the Falkens, Yokohama's and a few others to see if I can find something with an aggressive tread pattern that are not as expensive as the R888's. Maybe Santa will come through, I have been trying to be a good boy.

                            Cheers,

                            Jim
                            I hear ya. They are a serious track tire too, but they dont last as long as the Ra1s
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                            • MR 325
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                              • Oct 2003
                              • 37827

                              #44
                              Jim, if you want something affordable but decent I will recommend the Nexen N3000. They're a great street tire, last pretty long, and they run wide for their sizes.
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                              • IronmanE30
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                                • Sep 2009
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                                #45
                                Thanks Matt, I will check them out.

                                Cheers,

                                Jim
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