Unusual Tire Wear? You tell me.

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  • madjurgen
    E30 Fanatic
    • May 2005
    • 1203

    #1

    Unusual Tire Wear? You tell me.

    6400 miles on Falken Azenis Sports 195/60/14.
    3 auto-x's along with very aggressive street driving all the time.
    Lowered suspension from stock to IEstg3 w/ Koni SA's.
    Camber was really bad in the back so i doubled up on spring pads, helped some.
    Tires have 3/32" tread left. Is this what I should expect under these driving circumstances? Is it time to get new tires? Theyre not quite to the wear mark.

    I also have a really stupid question. The more and more I drive the car within the past month with these tires, my grip during cornering as well as hard shifting through the gears has gone to crap. My intuition tells me as the tread goes away on these tires, dry grip should increase as these become more and more like slicks. Am i just stupid?

    As time went on, the factory developed the car each year, making it faster, more comfortable, and capable of handling at higher speeds.
    You don’t want this. You want the trickiest, most dangerous, oldest model you can find. Only then can you prove to the world that you’re a man.
  • e30sd
    Fistee
    • Jan 2004
    • 5517

    #2
    i think most DE/autox groups say 4/32".

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    • Digitalwave
      is a poseur
      • Oct 2003
      • 6279

      #3
      Originally posted by madjurgen
      My intuition tells me as the tread goes away on these tires, dry grip should increase as these become more and more like slicks. Am i just stupid?
      They aren't R compounds... it's time to replace them.

      RISING EDGE

      Let's drive fast and have fun.

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      • madjurgen
        E30 Fanatic
        • May 2005
        • 1203

        #4
        Originally posted by Digitalwave
        They aren't R compounds... it's time to replace them.
        So loss of grip at <4/32" should be expected?

        As time went on, the factory developed the car each year, making it faster, more comfortable, and capable of handling at higher speeds.
        You don’t want this. You want the trickiest, most dangerous, oldest model you can find. Only then can you prove to the world that you’re a man.

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        • Digitalwave
          is a poseur
          • Oct 2003
          • 6279

          #5
          From my experience, any street tire loses grip as they wear down.

          RISING EDGE

          Let's drive fast and have fun.

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          • straight6pwr
            No R3VLimiter
            • Sep 2004
            • 3450

            #6
            Originally posted by madjurgen
            6400 miles on Falken Azenis Sports 195/60/14.
            3 auto-x's along with very aggressive street driving all the time.
            Lowered suspension from stock to IEstg3 w/ Koni SA's.
            +1 for stock suspension. haha but seriously i just got done with a set of bridgestone potenzas that i drive hard on the street and they lasted 6 years/55,000 miles.

            i hope after lowering my car this spring, i dont get only 7k out of my new set.

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            • Digitalwave
              is a poseur
              • Oct 2003
              • 6279

              #7
              Camber really just makes the inside wear faster than the outside, but it doesn't really make the tire wear faster overall.

              RISING EDGE

              Let's drive fast and have fun.

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              • nando
                Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 34827

                #8
                they have a treadwear rating of 200.. they are going to wear out fast, period. if you are expecting to get 25,000 miles out of them you need to buy some touring tires with a 500+ treadwear rating and stop pretending to be a race car driver.
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                • madjurgen
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • May 2005
                  • 1203

                  #9
                  Originally posted by nando
                  they have a treadwear rating of 200.. they are going to wear out fast, period. if you are expecting to get 25,000 miles out of them you need to buy some touring tires with a 500+ treadwear rating and stop pretending to be a race car driver.

                  Nowhere did I say I expected them to last that long. I was just asking if this is a normal wear rate under the aforementioned circumstances.

                  As time went on, the factory developed the car each year, making it faster, more comfortable, and capable of handling at higher speeds.
                  You don’t want this. You want the trickiest, most dangerous, oldest model you can find. Only then can you prove to the world that you’re a man.

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                  • 1991 318is
                    Mod Crazy
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 786

                    #10
                    Originally posted by madjurgen
                    The more and more I drive the car within the past month with these tires, my grip during cornering as well as hard shifting through the gears has gone to crap. My intuition tells me as the tread goes away on these tires, dry grip should increase as these become more and more like slicks. Am i just stupid?
                    Stock car and road racers "scuff" tires when they want them to last and run them as "stickers" when they want maximum grip for the first heat cycle. You've probably worn them out through repeated heat cycles. The cut down street tires for road racing are also new tires. You can learn a lot writing checks to Goodyear.

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                    • Mystikal
                      Moderator
                      Wheel Fitment Expert
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 9602

                      #11
                      I got exactly twice that mileage out of my RT-215's, with about the same amount of auto-x's. You must seriously drive the piss out of that car on the street, because I'm extremely agressive.

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                      • bimmers4life
                        E30 Addict
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 420

                        #12
                        i have put over 10,000 milse on my back tires. they are toyo fz4's. Still have tread left. This is some what agressive street driving, canyon runs, and a donut here and there.

                        I have heard that the azenis wear out pretty fast though, so this might be normal. Drive a little less agressive on the street and they will last a whole lot longer.

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                        • Digitalwave
                          is a poseur
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 6279

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bimmers4life
                          i have put over 10,000 milse on my back tires. they are toyo fz4's. Still have tread left. This is some what agressive street driving, canyon runs, and a donut here and there.
                          Different compounds, different tires. That really doesn't have anything to do with this thread.

                          RISING EDGE

                          Let's drive fast and have fun.

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                          • 92 mtechnic cabrio
                            Honesty is not the best policy!
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 4907

                            #14
                            I was told the inside last few layers of rubber are harder to allow you to drive for a little bit longer, knowing that it is time to replace them.

                            In any case, my Nitto 450r lasted me an oil change and a half, in the back, camber wear's a bitch!
                            R.I.P 07/01/09 - 04/23/10 :(

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