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  • Mystikal
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    Wheel Fitment Expert
    • Nov 2003
    • 9602

    #1981
    Originally posted by bmwpower
    Long shot, but I wanted to ask anyway.

    Borbet Type C 16x7.5
    ET30
    205/55/16 cooper touring
    not using spacers

    Q1 - Any other size of tire I can use? Eventually these tires will be replaced. As it is now, the tire is close (maybe like 4-5mm) to the strut tube.

    Q2 - What length studs should I use? 75mm, 90mm, etc?

    For reference:
    As you found out, those will be extremely close to the struts. I know of at least one guy who has pulled them off without spacers (on 205/50/16 tires), and at least one other who had it rubbing constantly. I wouldn't necessarily recommend someone to try it, but I would do it myself.

    The tire is too tall. As others said 205/50 or 225/45 are the correct choices. For the 225 you'd definitely want spacers, even 5mm all around is fine. I can never remember stud length, just search the board for that.

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    • Mystikal
      Moderator
      Wheel Fitment Expert
      • Nov 2003
      • 9602

      #1982
      Originally posted by Mastrcruse
      Anyone had the Falken Sincera SN 828's? I'm looking for cheap tires to get the car down to texas in. The final price installed is alittle over 270. or any suggestions of cheap tires that won't be too shitty in the rain.
      Never heard of it.

      The ZE-912 is so cheap already, and comes in that size. It's an excellent tire.

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      • Mystikal
        Moderator
        Wheel Fitment Expert
        • Nov 2003
        • 9602

        #1983
        Originally posted by bmwpower
        Just checked turnermotorsport and the 5mm spacer required non-beveled wheel backs. Mine are beveled, even with the hubcentric rings I have on the wheels.

        So which spacers should I go with....or any at all?
        Just read this now.

        Look into the 12.5mm hubcentric spacers I've posted here before. Even with 225/45/16 tires, you'd need the slightest of rear fender rolls, and it would look great.

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        • Mystikal
          Moderator
          Wheel Fitment Expert
          • Nov 2003
          • 9602

          #1984
          Originally posted by JiXer
          So I am thinking 245/40-17 Ventus Rs2's on bbs 7.5" rims.

          Thoughts?
          No.

          235 is the biggest you'd want. It'll work on the 7.5", but you'll be decreasing performance.

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          • Mystikal
            Moderator
            Wheel Fitment Expert
            • Nov 2003
            • 9602

            #1985
            Originally posted by Danny
            What size tire would you recommend on 15x6 1/2" rims?

            Could I squeeze 225s on there?
            225 R-comps, sure. Street tires, don't even bother.

            205 is the biggest. Just get something super sticky like RT-615s.

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            • Danny
              Moderator
              • Feb 2008
              • 14217

              #1986
              Well I was thinking r-comps/slicks

              Would you go with the kumho v710s?

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              • Mystikal
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                Wheel Fitment Expert
                • Nov 2003
                • 9602

                #1987
                Originally posted by Danny
                Well I was thinking r-comps/slicks

                Would you go with the kumho v710s?
                For autox, sure.

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                • JiXer
                  Mod Crazy
                  • May 2006
                  • 620

                  #1988
                  Originally posted by Mystikal
                  No.

                  235 is the biggest you'd want. It'll work on the 7.5", but you'll be decreasing performance.
                  How do you figure?
                  Are you saying 245's on 7.5's lay down less rubber than 235's?

                  J.
                  J. Farina

                  Yeah, thats me kicking up all that dirt!

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                  • JiXer
                    Mod Crazy
                    • May 2006
                    • 620

                    #1989
                    Originally posted by Mystikal
                    225 R-comps, sure. Street tires, don't even bother.

                    205 is the biggest. Just get something super sticky like RT-615s.
                    Not trying to start arguments or question your expertise, but we have run 215's on 6.5's and they are great.

                    I have even run 225 RA1's on 6" rims and they worked great.
                    Obviously tucked, but wore evenly and stuck like glue.

                    J.
                    J. Farina

                    Yeah, thats me kicking up all that dirt!

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                    • Mystikal
                      Moderator
                      Wheel Fitment Expert
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 9602

                      #1990
                      Originally posted by JiXer
                      How do you figure?
                      Are you saying 245's on 7.5's lay down less rubber than 235's?

                      J.
                      No.

                      More rubber does not equal more performance; the contact patch will be deformed. Also, "laying down rubber" is not an obvective, as no matter what size the tire is the same area of rubber will be in contact with the pavement, given the same car weight. It will just be a different shape, and when the tire is too wide for the wheel this shape is not optimal and you will LOSE traction.

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                      • Mystikal
                        Moderator
                        Wheel Fitment Expert
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 9602

                        #1991
                        Originally posted by JiXer
                        Not trying to start arguments or question your expertise, but we have run 215's on 6.5's and they are great.

                        I have even run 225 RA1's on 6" rims and they worked great.
                        Obviously tucked, but wore evenly and stuck like glue.

                        J.
                        215 what?

                        I'm fully aware of the wider range of options when you use R-comps.

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                        • bmwpower
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 1556

                          #1992
                          Originally posted by Mystikal
                          Just read this now.

                          Look into the 12.5mm hubcentric spacers I've posted here before. Even with 225/45/16 tires, you'd need the slightest of rear fender rolls, and it would look great.
                          I guess there are no 5mm spacers that will work with beveled wheel backs, eh?

                          Trying to avoid extra expenses if possible. Maybe I should just stick to 205/50-16 without spacers or will that size still need spacers (ie, is it any wider than a 205/55 at the strut tube area)?
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                          • JiXer
                            Mod Crazy
                            • May 2006
                            • 620

                            #1993
                            Originally posted by Mystikal
                            215 what?

                            I'm fully aware of the wider range of options when you use R-comps.
                            Azenis RT-615 - 215/45-16
                            J. Farina

                            Yeah, thats me kicking up all that dirt!

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                            • JiXer
                              Mod Crazy
                              • May 2006
                              • 620

                              #1994
                              Originally posted by Mystikal
                              No.

                              More rubber does not equal more performance; the contact patch will be deformed. Also, "laying down rubber" is not an objective, as no matter what size the tire is the same area of rubber will be in contact with the pavement, given the same car weight. It will just be a different shape, and when the tire is too wide for the wheel this shape is not optimal and you will LOSE traction.
                              Hmmmm.... Thats not computing in my head.
                              Any good links to something illustrating this?
                              I'm very much a visual learner.

                              J.
                              J. Farina

                              Yeah, thats me kicking up all that dirt!

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                              • Mystikal
                                Moderator
                                Wheel Fitment Expert
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 9602

                                #1995
                                Originally posted by bmwpower
                                I guess there are no 5mm spacers that will work with beveled wheel backs, eh?

                                Trying to avoid extra expenses if possible. Maybe I should just stick to 205/50-16 without spacers or will that size still need spacers (ie, is it any wider than a 205/55 at the strut tube area)?
                                Some 205s will fit, but not all. It's honestly a crap shoot with how close those wheels are.

                                You can also run a 3mm universal spacer. They're $20 for the pair max, and you don't even need new bolts.

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