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  • TexasTerp
    No R3VLimiter
    • Jan 2009
    • 3541

    #1

    Interesting MAF conversion

    I saw this posted on bimmerforums. It's an MAF conversion using an Hyundai Bosch 1.6L MAF. It seems to be a pretty cheap conversion although what I'm really more interested in is the application of the software he mentions for an e36 MAF. I have a 97 M3 MAF I was thinking about adapting later on.

    Let me know what y'all think.

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  • Beach Bum
    E30 Addict
    • Feb 2009
    • 466

    #2
    I saw that and thought about posting it here, but I got distracted. Glad you got this over here.
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    • dashboardmonkey
      FUCK YOUR WAFFLES
      • Jun 2008
      • 6158

      #3
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      • SpecM
        R3V Elite
        • Oct 2005
        • 4531

        #4
        its funny, Hyundai and Kia use a lot of German parts

        some new ones have 4hp18 trannys
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        • reelizmpro
          R3V OG
          • Dec 2003
          • 9453

          #5
          This is nothing new. People were doing this with units like SMT6, back in the day. Hyundai/Kia MAFs are also direct replacements on some E39's, etc. They use them as a cheaper alternative to BMW branded MAFs. The poster mentioned "EPROM emulating ECU" but doesn't mention any particular unit. Which EPROM emulating ECU did he get for next to nothing?
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          • SamE30e
            R3V Elite
            • Sep 2007
            • 4319

            #6
            Problem is, it needs tuning. I want more info on that EEprom setup he has though.
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            • Dillinger
              Wrencher
              • Mar 2009
              • 285

              #7
              There is some recent MAF talk in this thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=137079

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              • Erick
                Official R3V Drifter
                • Oct 2003
                • 11169

                #8
                Originally posted by SamE30e
                Problem is, it needs tuning. I want more info on that EEprom setup he has though.
                My thoughts exactly. Until someone can come up with an inexpensive chip that'll work with this, then there's really not much of a point.

                Because if you have to piggyback it, might as well MS it and remove the damn AFM altogether.

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                • SamE30e
                  R3V Elite
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 4319

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Erick
                  My thoughts exactly. Until someone can come up with an inexpensive chip that'll work with this, then there's really not much of a point.

                  Because if you have to piggyback it, might as well MS it and remove the damn AFM altogether.

                  - Erick
                  This guy didn't even have to piggyback it, but he is using a EEprom programmer. That in itself is expensive and costs close to MS. So yea it's pretty much useless. Until someone finds a way to connect it without having to do any tuning, or even getting a chip tuned for it, it's useless. But the MAF will MAYBE give you 1-3hp ontop of a chip. Not really worth it IMO.
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                  • bejbis
                    E30 Addict
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 596

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SamE30e
                    Problem is, it needs tuning. I want more info on that EEprom setup he has though.

                    he said it ran fine with the hyuandi maf albeit a bit on the rich side. you can use a potentiometer to tune a maf by adjusting the output to the ECU it sees, its not too hard. however this does have its limitations. but with how he describes it. a pot should work.

                    heres a link on how to accomplish this easily. read parts 5 and 6.

                    -Dan

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                    • bmw325csi
                      R3V Elite
                      • May 2007
                      • 4045

                      #11
                      IE has a plug and play miller maf for 300, stop being cheap
                      harry/harout

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                      • nando
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 34827

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bejbis
                        he said it ran fine with the hyuandi maf albeit a bit on the rich side. you can use a potentiometer to tune a maf by adjusting the output to the ECU it sees, its not too hard. however this does have its limitations. but with how he describes it. a pot should work.

                        heres a link on how to accomplish this easily. read parts 5 and 6.

                        http://www.autospeed.com.au/cms/A_110897/article.html
                        unfortunately, it doesn't quite work that way. the signal from the AFM is not linear, and the MAF is. a potentiometer is not going to comepensate for that.

                        but if you guys want to keep pursuing a MAF conversion as if it were the holy grail of a magic 20whp and throttle response from a stock M20, don't let me stop you.
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                        • bmw325csi
                          R3V Elite
                          • May 2007
                          • 4045

                          #13
                          ^ well thats the beauty of the new miller unit, it comes with its own ecu chip BMW2002.com
                          harry/harout

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                          • Tree18is
                            R3VLimited
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 2703

                            #14
                            thats crazy...

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                            • nando
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 34827

                              #15
                              yes and for the price it's not bad. You still won't get 20hp from it. ;)
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