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    #16
    so was this a universal type kit, or was it specific to the E30?

    98 540 MSport
    89 325 ix

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      #17
      universal. didnt know there were specific kits for the e30.
      Tim.

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        #18
        Originally posted by maximumangle View Post
        35W just doesnt make sense to me. now i have never done an HID conversion, so correct me if i am wrong. but a typical conventional headlight bulb is rated at 55/65W and in some cases up to 100W. Now common sense would dictate that with greater light and heat generated wold require more electricity. especially if you are creating an arc that is jumping across a 1/8" gap. So would anybody care to explain how greater light and heat is generated from less wattage?
        Incandescent use up most of their energy in heat production. lets say 80% heat, 20% usable light. gas/arc discharge lamps(HID) turn most of their energy into usable light, lets say 70% light, 30% heat. I pulled these numbers out of my butt, just guessing.

        So, if you have a 100w incandescent, thats only turning 20 watts into usable light and the rest into heat, and you have a HID at 35w turning 24.5 watts into light, then the HID is going to outperform the incandescent. Since the purpose of a lightbulb is to generate light, so the heat is simply wasted energy.
        -Dan

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          #19
          Originally posted by maximumangle View Post
          35W just doesnt make sense to me. now i have never done an HID conversion, so correct me if i am wrong. but a typical conventional headlight bulb is rated at 55/65W and in some cases up to 100W. Now common sense would dictate that with greater light and heat generated wold require more electricity. especially if you are creating an arc that is jumping across a 1/8" gap. So would anybody care to explain how greater light and heat is generated from less wattage?
          HID technology my friend. Ignitor + ballast and gas filled bulb = more than 4x the lumens and 10x the life of a halogen filament bulb while consuming less constant power. Some energy is lost thru the filament by heat dissipation so halogen bulbs were never that efficient. HID bulbs don't pass current thru a filament at all and run much cooler. HID systems consume a lot of power at start up but only require 35w to keep running. They do have 55w versions that put out even more lumens but the 35w HID kits are still a vast improvement over halogen. No need to worry about current frying your old wiring harness with the 35w kits though.
          "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

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            #20
            Originally posted by maximumangle View Post
            35W just doesnt make sense to me. now i have never done an HID conversion, so correct me if i am wrong. but a typical conventional headlight bulb is rated at 55/65W and in some cases up to 100W. Now common sense would dictate that with greater light and heat generated wold require more electricity. especially if you are creating an arc that is jumping across a 1/8" gap. So would anybody care to explain how greater light and heat is generated from less wattage?
            You are soooo far off base I think you might be feeling up your grandmother.
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              #21
              lol... onto the pictarsssss





              the garage was pitch black... looks like its midday!

              and sorry for crappy cell phone pics
              Tim.

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                #22
                Originally posted by bejbis View Post
                Incandescent use up most of their energy in heat production. lets say 80% heat, 20% usable light. gas/arc discharge lamps(HID) turn most of their energy into usable light, lets say 70% light, 30% heat. I pulled these numbers out of my butt, just guessing.

                So, if you have a 100w incandescent, thats only turning 20 watts into usable light and the rest into heat, and you have a HID at 35w turning 24.5 watts into light, then the HID is going to outperform the incandescent. Since the purpose of a lightbulb is to generate light, so the heat is simply wasted energy.
                thanks for the explanation. i figured there wold be a logical explanation :)


                Originally posted by Van Westervelt View Post
                You are soooo far off base I think you might be feeling up your grandmother.


                sweet bit on the lights there. did it come with bulbs too?

                98 540 MSport
                89 325 ix

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                  #23
                  yeah dude. everything needed came in the kit
                  Tim.

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                    #24
                    effing sweet. i might have to grab one of those.

                    98 540 MSport
                    89 325 ix

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                      #25
                      35w ballasts are lighter and smaller than 55w. just throwing that out there.

                      also, 55w at the same color temp will be whiter than 35w. I have 6k 55w and they're pretty much white.
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                      Bimmerlabs

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                        #26
                        cool. forgive my stupid question. i dont have the car here yet. the shipping company fumbled on it and it is still in cali.
                        what type bulbs do you use for those (i have amer. spec elips)

                        98 540 MSport
                        89 325 ix

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                          #27
                          9006

                          SC*AR

                          Originally posted by JamesE30
                          And with a car looking like yours I imagine the balance shall tip in the favor of insult, like a big fat fucking retarded fucking black girl on a see-saw, opposite... a dwarf.

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                            #28
                            thanks much!

                            98 540 MSport
                            89 325 ix

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                              #29
                              the reason 35 watt lights are brighter is due to the ballast/transformer that runs the lights. It requires less wattage that a conventional bulb but steps up the wattage to increase output if I'm correct. I may be wrong though as well but thats just my $0.02

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Alkasquawlik View Post
                                What wattage and stuff?
                                I'm looking to getting some within the next week or so.
                                Where'd you order from? Price?

                                There's a bay area guy who sells on ebay who's from Fremont. I bought 2 kits from him and they were about 50-60 shipped with a 1 yr warranty directly from him and they are the 35w ballast which are better since they are less likely to pop a fuse. The 55's will pop fuses in some cars from the spike when they first turn on.

                                If you want his info let me know and I can pm you.

                                I run a set of 45k's in my 08 odyssey and have them on all the time drove 16 hours straight to Canada with them on the whole way with out issues one ballast just went out and it's getting replaced under warranty.

                                Also running a set in my euro ellips in my e30.

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