My imagination but are Honda S2000's

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[TheB1G Lebowski]

Just went back and acutally read that statement. What kind of rules is that (1/4 rev range)? Well of course a fucking turbo is gonna stomp a car that revs high at low rpms. Just do as i said above and we will live in a better world. FUCK you are dumb.

[TheB1G Lebowski]

You clearly have little to know what you're talking about.

The S14 is a piss slow motor. A 325iS with a 4.10 rear end will outperform an M3. I'm pretty sure my membership to s14.net is being terminated soon after I post this, but it's true, and I've even seen M3 owners admit it. And yes, I've driven a bone stock E30 M3. Phenomenal car.... to have for weekend getaways to autocrosses and track events.

So for track racing, then it's a different story. When you're in the high-rpms, its a great track car. No doubt about it the E30 M3 is one of the best cars designed in it's age for overall performance.

That being said... for street use, the car is hardly as admirable. And I say that because you're not going to be driving the car balls out like you should to tap into it's potential.

Simple fact. Let's race your S2000, 318iS or E30 M3, against a competitor (Genesis Coupe 2.0T / Nissan's SR20 to S2000... 325iS to M3). The only rule is that you cannot use the upper 1/4 of your rev range. So if your redline is 8000, you can only rev to 6k. Who wins?

My only point is that these cars are hardly proper to daily drive. Beyond all the drifting and just looking at a car that you want to use everyday, they are pretty pointless. Therefore, for daily driving, yes the S2000 sucks. Take it on a race track, you have my full respect.

- Erick

WOW you are retarded. I stopped reading when you said the s14 is a piss slow motor. You have no credibility. Just rent a gun buy one bullet and well you know the rest. Damn you have no idea.

[pbr87]

becoming disposable cars much like BMW E36 M3's? Been browsing craigslist and noticed quite a few under 80k on the clock for under 11K.

Yeah, they don't seem to be holding their value too well. They're still great cars though. And I imagine their value will increase over time as they become rarer.

cause they suck, my friend has one and wants to get rid of it he says its a crap car

Your friend might be a fucking idiot. Honda S2000 is an excellent little car.

[M-technik-3]

People who like the Honda tend to like it for the same reasons people here like the 318iS.

Sure it's plenty fun in the track... the few times you'll have the chance to get it out there still doesn't really make up for the fact that the car is pretty terrible everywhere else.

It's like a Formula 1 in the sense that unless you're already up in the high revs and driving it to it's full potential, the car will be completely useless.

Whether you see that as a compliment or not, that's up to you :p

Using that statement then the E30 M3 is in the same book because it lacks low end torque or you have to row the shifter?

[Erick]

While i havent had the pleasure to drive an M42. I have owned a bunch of turbo RX-7s and NA 7s and compaierd to those FCs and FDs the S2k can hold its own. Can you list the things that make it bad for you? Why not just bash the S14 while were here too.

You clearly have little to know what you're talking about.

The S14 is a piss slow motor. A 325iS with a 4.10 rear end will outperform an M3. I'm pretty sure my membership to s14.net is being terminated soon after I post this, but it's true, and I've even seen M3 owners admit it. And yes, I've driven a bone stock E30 M3. Phenomenal car.... to have for weekend getaways to autocrosses and track events.

So for track racing, then it's a different story. When you're in the high-rpms, its a great track car. No doubt about it the E30 M3 is one of the best cars designed in it's age for overall performance.

That being said... for street use, the car is hardly as admirable. And I say that because you're not going to be driving the car balls out like you should to tap into it's potential.

Simple fact. Let's race your S2000, 318iS or E30 M3, against a competitor (Genesis Coupe 2.0T / Nissan's SR20 to S2000... 325iS to M3). The only rule is that you cannot use the upper 1/4 of your rev range. So if your redline is 8000, you can only rev to 6k. Who wins?

My only point is that these cars are hardly proper to daily drive. Beyond all the drifting and just looking at a car that you want to use everyday, they are pretty pointless. Therefore, for daily driving, yes the S2000 sucks. Take it on a race track, you have my full respect.

- Erick

[e30trooper]

I'll take you your m42 and raise you this local guys f22

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1lCj...layer_embedded

I take your f22 and raise you KA-T
its not 1jz Vtecspool. its a turbocharged KA24de

[e30trooper]

ignorance, yes tq helps, but deff not needed. lol. Have you ever heard of an AE86 and a little motor called the 4age? or a rotary? pretty sure those are popular too. Or how about a sr20det motor? CA18det? All 4 cylinders or no cylinders.

If some one can drift a 240 with a single cam ka24 that makes less then 100 hp, I think a s2000 will be fine. lol

i dont see how a sohc ka only makes 100hp? stock ka24e's make 145hp and 155 tq to the crank, dual cam's make 155hp and 160tq to the crank.

[TheB1G Lebowski]

^^^Hmmm hostility much??? lol.

[Jonny Cash]

ignorance, yes tq helps, but deff not needed. lol. Have you ever heard of an AE86 and a little motor called the 4age? or a rotary? pretty sure those are popular too. Or how about a sr20det motor? CA18det? All 4 cylinders or no cylinders.

If some one can drift a 240 with a single cam ka24 that makes less then 100 hp, I think a s2000 will be fine. lol

just pointing out that you don't half to have tq to drift, and the s2k is perfectly capable of holding it's own. the only reason you don't see too many of them out there is 1. cost and 2. the driving position. The same reason people don't like to drift 240/260/280z's. sitting too far back and your getting thrown around with the car.

oh and if you for those who hate on tq less motors and honda, what about the sr20ve, 4age (20v blacktop, by far my favorite 4 banger ever). Both very popular motors yet no one hating on them. Most of you need to open your eyes. Hate to say it but lots of you are more biased then the ls1 guys. lol

Your knowledge is amazing. You know you shouldnt give such valueable information away for free.

But you should read peoples posts more carefully. Key word: IDEAL. Take a step back to the OP's post. We're talking about an NA s2k. I post because I have experience in the matter. Until you have driven one, you have no voice in this conversation. Put the shovel down.

" AE86 and a little motor called the 4age? or a rotary? pretty sure those are popular too. Or how about a sr20det motor? CA18det? All 4 cylinders or no cylinders."

No, never. I live under a fucking rock. I was driving/wrenching rotary cars when you were still sucking tequila out of your moms titties, cupcake.

[TheB1G Lebowski]

Again no one can explain their faults. They are just gay or crap. Glad they know whats up.

[bimmer_E30]

cool cars. but kinda gay lol

[Nic01101011]

why don't you fix it already! mine did the exact same thing.. had it fixed in a day... i put daily abuse to that car on an off the track after the repairs.. it held up good... stop talkin about it and fix it!

I don't have a welder :(
otherwise of course it'd be fixed by now,

[88driftIS]

just pointing out that you don't half to have tq to drift, and the s2k is perfectly capable of holding it's own. the only reason you don't see too many of them out there is 1. cost and 2. the driving position. The same reason people don't like to drift 240/260/280z's. sitting too far back and your getting thrown around with the car.

oh and if you for those who hate on tq less motors and honda, what about the sr20ve, 4age (20v blacktop, by far my favorite 4 banger ever). Both very popular motors yet no one hating on them. Most of you need to open your eyes. Hate to say it but lots of you are more biased then the ls1 guys. lol

[TheB1G Lebowski]

ignorance, yes tq helps, but deff not needed. lol. Have you ever heard of an AE86 and a little motor called the 4age? or a rotary? pretty sure those are popular too. Or how about a sr20det motor? CA18det? All 4 cylinders or no cylinders.

If some one can drift a 240 with a single cam ka24 that makes less then 100 hp, I think a s2000 will be fine. lol

While this is true, its helps they weigh like 1500 pounds. I want an ae86 bad.