E30 M3 rear calipers on my 318is?

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  • TheRealE30kidd
    E30 Addict
    • Jul 2010
    • 496

    #1

    E30 M3 rear calipers on my 318is?

    will the e30 m3 rear calipers fit on my 91 318is?
    The Current Army
    -(UnderConstruction) 1991 330iS 24v S52 build thread
    -1992 325iC
    -1987 E30 Truck
    -1991 332iS (BecauseRacecar)
    -1988 Dinan M3
    -1988 325iX Tribute car
    -1989 320i Touring (S52/6spd)
  • Schneller 3er
    E30 Mastermind
    • Oct 2004
    • 1720

    #2
    Originally posted by TheRealE30kidd
    will the e30 m3 rear calipers fit on my 91 318is?
    No
    Danny

    88 ///M3 - Zinno street/shop queen
    88 ///M3 - Henna Track rat (Sold)
    98 ///M3 hellrot - Sold
    89 Porsche 944 - dd
    95 E34 525it/pick up - P/U Project
    90 325is - track rat

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    • nando
      Moderator
      • Nov 2003
      • 34827

      #3
      there's nothing special about stock E30 M3 calipers anyway (single piston sliding caliper, heavy cast iron). The amount of work it would take to mount them is high enough that you may as well just get a BBK.
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      • Schneller 3er
        E30 Mastermind
        • Oct 2004
        • 1720

        #4
        Originally posted by nando
        there's nothing special about stock e30 m3 calipers anyway (single piston sliding caliper, heavy cast iron). The amount of work it would take to mount them is high enough that you may as well just get a bbk.
        +1
        Danny

        88 ///M3 - Zinno street/shop queen
        88 ///M3 - Henna Track rat (Sold)
        98 ///M3 hellrot - Sold
        89 Porsche 944 - dd
        95 E34 525it/pick up - P/U Project
        90 325is - track rat

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        • TheRealE30kidd
          E30 Addict
          • Jul 2010
          • 496

          #5
          the only reason i was gonna do the m3 rear calipers is because i need to do my rear calipers anyway, and akebono doesn't make rear pads for the e30 but the make them for the e30 m3 so i wanted to put the m3 ones on so i could have akebono euro in the rear. plus i have a new set of e30 m3 rear calipers sitting on my shelf.
          The Current Army
          -(UnderConstruction) 1991 330iS 24v S52 build thread
          -1992 325iC
          -1987 E30 Truck
          -1991 332iS (BecauseRacecar)
          -1988 Dinan M3
          -1988 325iX Tribute car
          -1989 320i Touring (S52/6spd)

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          • TheRealE30kidd
            E30 Addict
            • Jul 2010
            • 496

            #6
            how hard would it be? what would i have to do?
            The Current Army
            -(UnderConstruction) 1991 330iS 24v S52 build thread
            -1992 325iC
            -1987 E30 Truck
            -1991 332iS (BecauseRacecar)
            -1988 Dinan M3
            -1988 325iX Tribute car
            -1989 320i Touring (S52/6spd)

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            • FredK
              R3V OG
              • Oct 2003
              • 14745

              #7
              E30 rear brake rotor diameter: 258 mm
              E30 M3 rear brake rotor diameter: 280 mm

              The rear caliper will install onto the rear trailing arm. It won't be properly placed radially in relationship to the rear rotor, since the non-M rotor is 11 mm smaller in radius. Now, it would probably fit, and probably work OK, but definitely not ideally.

              It makes no sense to try to install incompatible parts, all because you want to use Akebono rear pads front and rear. Keep in mind, because of the larger brake diameter out back, you now have different brake balance front and rear, which completely invalidates trying to match pad compounds.

              My recommendation is, get PBR Ceramic pads for your stock rear brakes and call it a day. The friction properties will not vary radically from Akebono pads.

              If you do not understand what was typed here, here are Cliffs Notes:
              1. Forget E30 M3 rear brakes.
              2. Buy PBR Ceramic rear pads (non-M)
              3. Install them.

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              • TheRealE30kidd
                E30 Addict
                • Jul 2010
                • 496

                #8
                Originally posted by FredK
                E30 rear brake rotor diameter: 258 mm
                E30 M3 rear brake rotor diameter: 280 mm

                The rear caliper will install onto the rear trailing arm. It won't be properly placed radially in relationship to the rear rotor, since the non-M rotor is 11 mm smaller in radius. Now, it would probably fit, and probably work OK, but definitely not ideally.

                It makes no sense to try to install incompatible parts, all because you want to use Akebono rear pads front and rear. Keep in mind, because of the larger brake diameter out back, you now have different brake balance front and rear, which completely invalidates trying to match pad compounds.

                My recommendation is, get PBR Ceramic pads for your stock rear brakes and call it a day. The friction properties will not vary radically from Akebono pads.

                If you do not understand what was typed here, here are Cliffs Notes:
                1. Forget E30 M3 rear brakes.
                2. Buy PBR Ceramic rear pads (non-M)
                3. Install them.
                thanks man i migh just try the PBR i just hate brake dust!!! and you no anyone who wants a new set of m3 rear calipers
                The Current Army
                -(UnderConstruction) 1991 330iS 24v S52 build thread
                -1992 325iC
                -1987 E30 Truck
                -1991 332iS (BecauseRacecar)
                -1988 Dinan M3
                -1988 325iX Tribute car
                -1989 320i Touring (S52/6spd)

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                • rhett325i
                  E30 Addict
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 575

                  #9
                  btw, the E30m3 rear calipers will work on a non-m, but you need to source the 280mm rear rotors from a z1. Good luck finding a set.

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                  • TheRealE30kidd
                    E30 Addict
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 496

                    #10
                    if i did the rear m calipers and stock front how would my braking? would it be to much brakes for the rear? maybe get to light in the rear under hard high seppe braking? i dont no just wondering because like i said i need to do the rear calipers and i have a set of new m3 ones? and i would need the z1 rotors?
                    The Current Army
                    -(UnderConstruction) 1991 330iS 24v S52 build thread
                    -1992 325iC
                    -1987 E30 Truck
                    -1991 332iS (BecauseRacecar)
                    -1988 Dinan M3
                    -1988 325iX Tribute car
                    -1989 320i Touring (S52/6spd)

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                    • e34john
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 3599

                      #11
                      Just do what Fred told you to do.
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                      • Jesse30
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 3936

                        #12
                        dude, dont bother. get the pbr pads and install them.

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                        • MR 325
                          Moderator
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 37826

                          #13
                          Originally posted by TheRealE30kidd
                          if i did the rear m calipers and stock front how would my braking? would it be to much brakes for the rear? maybe get to light in the rear under hard high seppe braking? i dont no just wondering because like i said i need to do the rear calipers and i have a set of new m3 ones? and i would need the z1 rotors?
                          Get over the caliper idea, it's stupid. Sell them on s14.net
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                          • Jesse30
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 3936

                            #14
                            But but but its em-threeeeeeeeeeeee mayne!

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                            • McGyver
                              R3V Elite
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 4443

                              #15
                              +30 hp if you can make them fit.
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                              1989 - 325i Convertible Bronzit m30b35 swapped [SCRAPPED], 325i Sedan Alpine Auto[DD]
                              1991 - 325i Coupe Laguna Manual [Project], 535i Sedan Alpine [SCRAPPED]

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