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If you can do an s14 swap for the same cost as an m50? Which would you choose?
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Originally posted by nrubenstein View PostFor a daily driver, I'd do the M50. Lots more torque, easy, and parts/engines are super cheap.
For a track bitch, I'd probably do the S14. But it's hard not to look at the cost delta there. Realistically, an S14 is not a cheap motor to run all the time.
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Originally posted by e dub View PostI'm not looking for loads of power. i just want it to be a fun daily. something that when i get on the throttle it responds. i have a 98 m3 that im most likely selling once the e30 is built. so i know what it feels to have that type of power... I like how the 318 feels in the corners and overall driving, it just feels a little under powered at times.Last edited by reelizmpro; 03-31-2011, 12:18 AM."I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj
85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER
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All the people in this thread leg humping the S14 have never actually driven a e30 with one...
Its a fun motor, sure, but its pretty anemic. There is literally nothing off the bottom.. it is like driving a damn Honda. Granted when the needle rolls past 4K it starts to come alive and makes some cool intake noises.
M/S5X and don't look back! If you're worried about weight distribution and all that bullshit (it doesn't matter in a street car) then go find a 2.8 out a Z3. They are aluminum and lighter than the standard 6s.
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I have to admit I absolutely love the sound of a properly tuned s14 in the higher RPM range. At idle, it sounds a little raw. I've autocrossed an e30 M3 a few times and I would say it's one of the most fun cars I've ever driven.
That being said, the M50 is a great motor and would be right at home in the daily driving world. I'm in the process of picking up parts to do my M50 swap as we speak. My reasons for doing M50 over S50 or S14 are simple: excellent fuel economy, low-end torque, smooth powerband, cost and accessibility of parts and most importantly a loooong list of people who have done the swap to support you if there are issues.
If you have driven any car that requires you rev the piss out of it to get power such as an RX-8 or similar, you'll know the frustrations of driving a car with an anemic bottom end. It can be frustrating to drive in a situation where you can't let the engine stretch it's legs. If this was a dedicated track car I would say S14 but if you are daily driving it would be silly to not go M50. The long-term investment would be lower and your satisfaction level would be higher. As an E36 owner, you already know the benefits of the M/S50 motors. Then again, the sound of an S14 wound out is euphoric.
S14: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHrig...eature=related
M50: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQXr2...eature=related
Not sure if those would help but...good luck and keep us posted.
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Originally posted by 325ix View Postdepends on the year. The last versions were 2.5 in the evo III
Parts for the S14 are so expensive it makes ownership prohibitive for many people. As cool as the S14 is, I would either pass on it or buy and resell to someone with an M3 and use the extra cash to go S5x in your E30.
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