man never thought i'd desire a newer car, but the 135i is calling my name....

[VinniE30]

Yes you can. For every standard extra there is a delete option for it.

Nope. 128i you can but not the 135i. Not in the US atleast. You might able to but it is not easy, it's not something you can simply opt out of when configuring the car.

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212177

Sucks and really gets me mad you can't even order one without a sunroof(in the US) just shows it's not a car for enthusiasts.(the 1m however is and doesn't have a sunroof:D) The great thing about buying a new car for me would be configuring it the way you want, it's very hard to find a used car with no options cause everyone thinks more is better.

This is not a car made for enthusiasts, it's made for people with lots of money to spend that just want it for luxury and the brand name.

Heavy, especially for a car that small, should be way lighter, atleast under 3000lbs
Ugly
Over invasive stability, traction control systems, no fun
No LSD because it will just take power away (but with a lag) when it detects slippage
Over-boosted, disconnected feeling steering
Unnecessarily overly complicated with electronic systems
Not naturally aspirated
Can't be worked on yourself must pay tons of money to do anything on it.
No dip stick, can't be self diagnosed, etc.
Way more known faults and bad design issues. To name some of the recalls: HPFP, tail lights, seat belt. Rattles.
I doubt these will stand the test of time like e30's have, they will be a nightmare to own 10 years from now.

[NigelStu]

1M FTMFW!!!!!!!

A lighter, more nimble M3.... yummy. I've tracked a new M3 and it was awesome. I'd imagine the 1 would be more fun in the twisties with the lower curb weight.

It may not have the spectacular exhaust note that the M3 has (gawd, it makes me smile just thinking about that!), but everything else looks like it should work awesome. And it should be easy enough to get to M3 power levels....


Now if they just had more color choices..........

[M3TROY]

Nope. 128i you can but not the 135i. Not in the US atleast. You might able to but it is not easy, it's not something you can simply opt out of when configuring the car.

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212177

Sucks and really gets me mad you can't even order one without a sunroof(in the US) just shows it's not a car for enthusiasts.(the 1m however is and doesn't have a sunroof:D) The great thing about buying a new car for me would be configuring it the way you want, it's very hard to find a used car with no options cause everyone thinks more is better.

This is not a car made for enthusiasts, it's made for people with lots of money to spend that just want it for luxury and the brand name.

Heavy, especially for a car that small, should be way lighter, atleast under 3000lbs
Ugly
Over invasive stability, traction control systems, no fun
No LSD because it will just take power away (but with a lag) when it detects slippage
Over-boosted, disconnected feeling steering
Unnecessarily overly complicated with electronic systems
Not naturally aspirated
Can't be worked on yourself must pay tons of money to do anything on it.
No dip stick, can't be self diagnosed, etc.
Way more known faults and bad design issues. To name some of the recalls: HPFP, tail lights, seat belt. Rattles.
I doubt these will stand the test of time like e30's have, they will be a nightmare to own 10 years from now.

you sir know NOTHING about new BMWs
no one is compairing it to an e30 and if they where the 335/135i is on another planet compaired to an e30 so dont kid yourself.

you are wrong on literally EVERY point less two 1) its ugly but thats your personal opinion, and 2) its Not naturally aspirated but who cares?

just a heads up but the HPFP problem has be resolved for about 5-6 months now.
my wife owns a 335i TT and i did all the work on it and i am NO mec by any means.
i installed the IC, catless DPs, DC intake and JB4 all took some time but it wasnt something anyone else couldnt do with no experence.
the meth kit, and custom exhaust i had someone do as i didnt have the time or place when we moved.
it made 446 WHP before we upgraded the turbos and has yet to be dynoed since.

cheers m8

[CabbE30]

I drove a 2011 schwarz 135i with the m-package. And fuck that thing is sexy! I want it so bad. I had the pictures on my phone but I forgot I moved them to my comp. The exhaust sounds amazing, so crisp.

[Wh33lhop]

Heavy, especially for a car that small, should be way lighter, atleast under 3000lbs

It's a new car.

Ugly

You're ugly.

Over invasive stability, traction control systems, no fun

It's a new car.

Over-boosted, disconnected feeling steering
Unnecessarily overly complicated with electronic systems

It's a new car.

Not naturally aspirated

That is the whole fucking point.

Can't be worked on yourself must pay tons of money to do anything on it.

You sound like a fucking vagina.

[mr.vang]

Whats up with these threads lately? Everyone wants a newer car now and is asking for r3v's opinion? I'll make sure to have all my life decisions approved from r3v from now on.

agree 100%. r3v are opinion homo....

[glucklich21]

Nope. 128i you can but not the 135i. Not in the US atleast. You might able to but it is not easy, it's not something you can simply opt out of when configuring the car.

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212177

It's a priority 1 option. Aka it isn't on the configuration. It's only available if you order it, like terracotta, lemon leather, or the shark fin delete for example.


I went through all this when I ordered the E90. I had to order it because a M-Sport, manual 335i sedan with folding rear seats is a magical fucking unicorn apparently and not stocked by anyone.

[deutschman]

My girl friend and I have a black 135i and it ROCKS!!!!!!!
I did a BMWCCA driving school in it and it was SOOOOO much fun! With some better tires, and pads it would be retarded fun! Add an air intake some tuning and an exhaust and it would be even more fun.
I love everything about it. It feels like a more solid e36 M3 when I drive it. It is the closest to an actual BMW fanatics driving car you can get with any new BMW.

Heavy, especially for a car that small, should be way lighter, at least under 3000lbs - not bad for a car made in 2000 with modern safety gear that will save your life. With the power this thing puts down you will not feel the weight.
Ugly - In the eye of the beholder. To each his own.
Over invasive stability, traction control systems, no fun - The electronic safety aids can be turned off very easily! In day to day driving they are incredible and can also save your life.
No LSD because it will just take power away (but with a lag) when it detects slippage. - When the DTC is of there is no such thing.
Over-boosted, disconnected feeling steering - I call BS. The steering is crisp and reactive. I did a BMWCCA school in this car and the steering was perfect. the instructors got to drive it and they loved it as well.
Unnecessarily overly complicated with electronic systems - Only if you add a bunch of options. The only fancy things our car has is heated seats (cold in SF) and the fancy door locking system. Other then that it has everything an e30 has and not much more.
Not naturally aspirated - Look at all the turbo e30's on R3V. The turbo's on the 135i are very nice and there is almost no lag in a manual (or steptronic mode).
Can't be worked on yourself must pay tons of money to do anything on it.
No dip stick, can't be self diagnosed, etc. - If you have an OBD scanner you can diagnose. If you are competent with a set of wrenches and have torx sockets you can do lot to this car.
Way more known faults and bad design issues. To name some of the recalls: HPFP, tail lights, seat belt. Rattles. - Not to bad. they have had a few recalls, but what modern BMW sins the e36 M3 has not had a few recalls? Not to many. BMW is always quick to get recalled cars fixed, and courtesy vehicles are fun.
I doubt these will stand the test of time like e30's have, they will be a nightmare to own 10 years from now. - Most people who buy new cars these days do not own their cars for 10 + years. They buy a new car, and then trade it in for an upgrade a few years later. I also think that if you buy a 1 series with as few options as possible you will not have many problems.

^ Comparing an e30 to a new BMW is like comparing apples and oranges. They are to different animals, and it makes no sens to compare them. Its like comparing a 1940's 328 to a 1991 325i.
If you want a light track 135i you can strip everything you don't want out of it and it will loose a few hundred pounds very quickly! Otherwise you have a very comfortable city car, that is an absolute joy to drive during weekend track days.
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[InuFaye]

I want to go test drive one.

[be34st]

I will have one:hitler:

[VinniE30]

you sir know NOTHING about new BMWs
no one is compairing it to an e30 and if they where the 335/135i is on another planet compaired to an e30 so dont kid yourself.

you are wrong on litterily EVERY point less two 1) its ugly but thats your personal opion, and 2) its Not naturally aspirated but who cares?

So you're just saying i'm wrong giving no counter point? Damn you got me there.

just a heads up but the HPFP problem has be resolved for about 5-6 months now.

I know, so what, they fixed a problem. My point was that it had the problem to begin with so it was poorly engineered. They should be able to fix it and it's about time, 4 years later.

my wife owns a 335i TT and i did all the work on it and i am NO mec by any means.
i installed the IC, catless DPs, DC intake and JB4 all took some time but it wasnt something anyone else couldnt do with no experence.
the meth kit, and custom exhaust i had someone do as i didnt have the time or place when we moved.
it made 446 WHP before we upgraded the turbos and has yet to be dynoed since.

Good for you, I don't care, and that wasn't my point, it's more mechanically and electronically complex than an e30, that's the point. I never said it wasn't slow.

BTW you have horrible spelling. How old are you?

cheers m8

[VinniE30]

My girl friend and I have a black 135i and it ROCKS!!!!!!!
I did a BMWCCA driving school in it and it was SOOOOO much fun! With some better tires, and pads it would be retarded fun! Add an air intake some tuning and an exhaust and it would be even more fun.
I love everything about it. It feels like a more solid e36 M3 when I drive it. It is the closest to an actual BMW fanatics driving car you can get with any new BMW.

Heavy, especially for a car that small, should be way lighter, at least under 3000lbs - not bad for a car made in 2000 with modern safety gear that will save your life. With the power this thing puts down you will not feel the weight.
But it undoubtedly would be a better car in in many ways if it was lighter. Many modern cars are lighter.

Ugly - In the eye of the beholder. To each his own.
K.

Over invasive stability, traction control systems, no fun - The electronic safety aids can be turned off very easily! In day to day driving they are incredible and can also save your life.
They can't be completely disabled. It's something that can break and adds weight. I'd rather not have it.

No LSD because it will just take power away (but with a lag) when it detects slippage. - When the DTC is of there is no such thing.
So it's just going to spin one wheel rather than lockup as a mechanical LSD would do.

Over-boosted, disconnected feeling steering - I call BS. The steering is crisp and reactive. I did a BMWCCA school in this car and the steering was perfect. the instructors got to drive it and they loved it as well.
K. That's subjective, just giving my view from when I drove one. I preferred the steering feel in my e30 to it.

Unnecessarily overly complicated with electronic systems - Only if you add a bunch of options. The only fancy things our car has is heated seats (cold in SF) and the fancy door locking system. Other then that it has everything an e30 has and not much more.
Not naturally aspirated - Look at all the turbo e30's on R3V. The turbo's on the 135i are very nice and there is almost no lag in a manual (or steptronic mode).
Doesn't change the fact that it's not NA.

Can't be worked on yourself must pay tons of money to do anything on it.
No dip stick, can't be self diagnosed, etc. - If you have an OBD scanner you can diagnose. If you are competent with a set of wrenches and have torx sockets you can do lot to this car.
Doesn't change the fact that an e30 is easier to do work on. And an OBD scanner gives generic codes for all cars with OBD, not BMW specific codes like the Peake reader I have for all BMW's late 80's to 2006.

Way more known faults and bad design issues. To name some of the recalls: HPFP, tail lights, seat belt. Rattles. - Not to bad. they have had a few recalls, but what modern BMW sins the e36 M3 has not had a few recalls? Not to many. BMW is always quick to get recalled cars fixed, and courtesy vehicles are fun.
I doubt these will stand the test of time like e30's have, they will be a nightmare to own 10 years from now. - Most people who buy new cars these days do not own their cars for 10 + years. They buy a new car, and then trade it in for an upgrade a few years later. I also think that if you buy a 1 series with as few options as possible you will not have many problems.
Then I suppose it is a good car for those people. Not me.

^ Comparing an e30 to a new BMW is like comparing apples and oranges.
Agreed.
They are to different animals, and it makes no sens to compare them.
Why not? If they are so different than there is more to compare.
Its like comparing a 1940's 328 to a 1991 325i.
If you want a light track 135i you can strip everything you don't want out of it and it will loose a few hundred pounds very quickly! Otherwise you have a very comfortable city car, that is an absolute joy to drive during weekend track days.
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[VinniE30]

It's a new car.



You're ugly.


It's a new car.


It's a new car.



That is the whole fucking point.



You sound like a fucking vagina.

So your saying it sucks because it's a new car? Agreed. That's why I won't be buying any new cars.

And i'm both ugly and a vagina? Damn you hurt my feelings.:giggle:

[InuFaye]

r3v the only place where the almighty e30 is a better car then a new 1er.

[M3TROY]

Sorry for my spelling mis-haps (im busy at work doing 10 things at once) but Good god your argumentative. Your like a 15 year old school girl but at least the 15 year old school girl is right at least half the time.
Get yourself a 1970 VW bug and call it a day.
Or better yet a fuken horse and buggy :giggle: i hear there much easier to work on .
And as I said you know NOTHING about new BMWs here ill point out a simple one for you.
The traction control systems CAN be completely disabled as there are 2 setting for it but you know everything so....
here's another one, yea no LSD really sucks LOL LOL LOL REALLY? Tell it to the guys at the track driving lotus Elise with open diffs (you know one of the best handling cars in the world) but im sure you'll argue that as well BAHAHAHA but like i said you know everything.
Listen your obviously some young kid still learning so how about you do just that, listen and learn.