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    I hope you all know you're basing your claims of Paypal's high security on what they do NOW and not THREE years ago.. Lots of things have changed in those three years on security for everything...

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      I'm pretty upset with the outcome whether Josh took the money or not. It's a shame that a cool guy like Yan got screwed twice over the same situation.

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        meh I can't even remember if i donated. I do know that r3v wouldn't be as great as it is w/o Josh. Mistakes happen. I trust it was a mistake. was it mis-handled? Probably.. But hindsight is 20/20. If Josh is stepping down I will gladly take his place, but beware, you will all be banned and shit will be talked between me and the remaining 2 members.
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        Originally posted by Rigmaster
        you kids get off my lawn.....

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          I don't know Josh or Yan but I have seen Josh's name thrown around a ton for scandalous things like, not shipping items.. not returning money... Now this? Makes me want to gtfo out of the E30 scene all together.

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            Originally posted by EN318isPDX View Post
            Now this? Makes me want to gtfo out of the E30 scene all together.
            uh ok, leave?
            How does one person make you want to leave? I guess the other 2 million just aren't worth it....
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            Originally posted by Rigmaster
            you kids get off my lawn.....

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              Originally posted by delatlanta1281 View Post
              uh ok, leave?
              How does one person make you want to leave? I guess the other 2 million just aren't worth it....
              Why so literal? No one likes the idea of having thieves in their community.

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                Originally posted by EN318isPDX View Post
                Why so literal? No one likes the idea of having thieves in there community.
                Why so whiney?
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                Originally posted by Rigmaster
                you kids get off my lawn.....

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                  Originally posted by delatlanta1281 View Post
                  Why so whiney?
                  Why so butthurt......? Anyway hope Yan gets the money otherwise I hope karma will do its bidding to whomever hacked or stole the funds.

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                    instead of all this speculation; why doesn't OP just post proof (i.e. email alerts) that the funds were drained?

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                      Originally posted by Balleristic31 View Post
                      I'm pretty upset with the outcome whether Josh took the money or not. It's a shame that a cool guy like Yan got screwed twice over the same situation.
                      This. It's fucking bullshit. I don't know what the fuck has happened, but this place has just turned into a giant shit hole.
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                        I think the appropriate thing to do would be for James as owner to request an accounting of the PayPal account in question. Given the total lack of transparency thus far, total transparency would be ideal.

                        I feel truly gutted for Yan. Got screwed twice.
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                          For the record I am working with Josh and coming up with a plan to rectify this situation. The ball is in his court to make things right and I have faith that he will.

                          Name calling, insults, and other things will not be tolerated.. they are not going to help the matter and everybody deserves a chance to right a wrong.

                          I have demoted Josh as an Admin/Mod, and he is no longer a representative of R3V whatsoever. My goal is to give everyone the piece of mind that the leadership here does not take issues like this lightly, and will do whatever is required to ensure resolution is made.

                          Like I said before, feel free to reach out to me if you have any questions or concerns.

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                            josh could prove it by posting the paypal logs - they go back until the start of your account (I think mine was in 2001?).

                            I don't think there's any reason to not believe him regardless - do you guys really think paypal is unhackable? There's a reason I don't keep any cash in there, I don't even like having it linked to my bank account. Paypal is a lucrative target for hackers.

                            we should be pissed at josh for not saying something sooner. but we should also be pissed that some POS knew that Josh had $3k sitting in that account and stole it. unless Josh is totally lying, that somebody is still out there, and possibly reading this thread right now.
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                              Originally posted by James Crivellone View Post
                              everybody deserves a chance to right a wrong.
                              I agree..Ive done many shady things as a youngin. But nothing dishonest or shady in 33 years when my life changed. I like Josh... but I think he has some issues with honesty. But just as many did for me, I think he deserves a 3rd chance. People can change and be better for it. Its my belief there was some deceit here but if he steps up and makes it right and learns a life lesson this could be good for him and all that surround him
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                                Originally posted by RUFFLZ View Post
                                instead of all this speculation; why doesn't OP just post proof (i.e. email alerts) that the funds were drained?
                                That might be a problem:
                                I shortly after closed the account completely
                                I'm just having a hard time believing that one could be so unaware of changes being made to a paypal account. This makes no sense to me at all:
                                Over a couple of months, several amounts were transferred out of the account to different accounts, with people's names I'd never heard of. I wasn't aware it was even going on because the email account that I received the notifications at had been changed, even the account password had been changed, and I hadn't been checking the account regularly, I had no reason to.
                                I want to believe that Josh would never steal but this needs a better explanation.
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