New cars are so Ugly

[M3Philipp]

Many new cars look like shit, no doubt.
They also lack of quality, especially eco-cars, they used to be better long ago.

Yesterday evening my parents friends came to visit.
I had a discussion (that we have on the last pages now) with my dads best buddy about my car.

Why do I drive such an old car, or to be more exactly, why do I care so much for my car, maintain it, spend so much money into it.

You can't discuss about it, thats my experience I made when talking about that topic to other people.
My girlfriend did just lisen to us talking, she said, its like politicans on TV, they talk, and talk, and talk...
And they come to no "agreement", guess you know what I mean.

I love the E30, it is the best car in the world to me, I would not trade it against any other car.
People will never understand that, beside enthusiasts like we are.
But why should I give a damn, about what other people see in my car.
When driving E30, you are riding on a cloud beside angels. End.

[Bill 84 318i]

When you inevitably poke your head out of the e30 world and get another car, walk the walk and vote with your wallet - consumers are the reason for the progress you hate. Buy the car you're asking for, like a Toyobaru or whatever car is out that enthusiasts beg for but will never buy.

[kstier]

^^^this^^^

I can afford a new car and could choose from some pretty nice ones yet I drive an eight year old suv and 1984 e30 sedan...I could use a few more but they won't be any newer...

[Threehz]

it's called progress.
can you believe there was a time that people couldn't buy sliced bread!

Forgot to add.

Can you believe some people still bake their own bread and slice it themselves ;)

Progress is the same word used when they created the first atomic weapons. Progress isn't always good, this reminds me of one of my favourite examples of so called "progress".

Go watch the original Jurassic Park.

We all get caught up in this huge rat race towards "new" and "improved" yet we forget to improve ourselves, and forget the old phrase, "if it's not broken, don't fix it."

Anyway sorry for the ranting, all these gas fumes are probably getting to me ;)

[Threehz]

What options could you order to distract you in the 1960's? Most options I can think of back then were all geared towards driving, most american muscle cars had a huge variety of different versions/options but it was all driving oriented. The Japanese cars that were imported lacked almost all the options that the JDM versions had available, but even those were all driving oriented back then as well.

I mean both my 280z and 318is lack cup-holders, which may seem like an inconvenience, but eating/drinking while driving is one of the biggest cause of accidents.

In the United states looking at their officially statistics 1960 had the least car related fatalities, period. 2009 is the only year with a lower count but the number is a preliminary result and not confirmed yet.

I hate the age of throw-away, cars are more expensive then they've ever been, inflation accounted for, yet most of them are some of the lowest quality builds seen.

Maybe I'm just not with the times, my morals and values differ from many peoples these days. I grew up in a German household believing in "Do it right or don't do it at all" and that has applied to everything in my life. I believe the only things that should compete with quality are honesty and kindness.

Yes of course if cars were made to last and made with soul, character and for the purpose of driving, then people would buy a lot less of them. People wouldn't be buying a new car every 3-7 years, or sooner. They would feel good about investing a large sum of money in a real product that they can trust in and care for, something they could pass on to their children and know it will be safe and reliable.

But fuck it, slap me in the face, I'm living in a dream that died years ago with humanities soul. I'll be driving old cars till the day I die, and if I die because my car doesn't have crumple zones then I'll die happy knowing I didn't support the fall of man kind.

End rant.

[mikeedler]

it's called progress.
can you believe there was a time that people couldn't buy sliced bread!



I think this thread is kinda bullshit. In 1955 you could order a ton of options in your car to distract you too........
it's called safety. Look at the number of accidents in Germany alone from 1960's- to now. Not saying cars from today are better, but 8 airbags in a car with a crumple zone and proper seatbelts is alot nicer than a 1965 anything car(I would rather my daughter and wife be safer). Yes, 60's cars were MUCH cooler, but not safer, or practical for todays time.

It's the age of throw away. vehicles are meant to be recycled after 8 years max.--just like TV,s and everything else. hell, look at the shitty quality of American houses. by the time they are 40 years old, you NEED to tear it down. not that that is bad either- I hate my crooked 150y/o German house when crap breaks.

[Exodus_2pt0]

Anyhow that statement about new cars being like riding on clouds or what not is right on point. Newer cars disconnect the driver more and more from DRIVING. In my opinion newer cars are the least safe cars ever made. The driver truly becomes a passenger along for the ride, with a million gadgets to distract, no true feel for actually driving, let along the road and whats around you, it's a disconnected world filled with distractions.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

After working for Nissan for a few years and going to numerous technical training classes I have to say, people driving new cars are hardly driving. Hell you don't have to worry about disabling cruise control when you come up on another car in the fast lane anymore.

Auto braking, cars that wont let you merge if there is a car in your blind spot... ect.

Its all in the name of safety, while creating drivers with no responsibility for, well, their driving.

[Threehz]

You probably would like this thread here, http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=129817

If I had a nickel for every time I just came....

Bravo.

Makes me want to throw an RB26DETT in an E30 and see how it likes 900 horses.

Anyhow that statement about new cars being like riding on clouds or what not is right on point. Newer cars disconnect the driver more and more from DRIVING. In my opinion newer cars are the least safe cars ever made. The driver truly becomes a passenger along for the ride, with a million gadgets to distract, no true feel for actually driving, let along the road and whats around you, it's a disconnected world filled with distractions.

[lambo]

I think its cuz they dont have the feal of a real car now n days they just feel like your gliding on clouds insted of feeling the power

Exactly...every new car that I drive and/or ride in might be (*cough* is *cough*) faster than my E30 but I never feel like I'm any quicker...

[monster89]

I think its cuz they dont have the feal of a real car now n days they just feel like your gliding on clouds insted of feeling the power

[MattAvino]

since I was 10 or so, ive been sketching design ideas for new cars. Designs that are reminiscent of older, beautiful and conservative style.
There is NO reason a car should look like this:


And also; MORE RWD, PLEEAASE!!!

[OnMy2ndE30]

The only thing I can contribute to this is that the older cars are easier to work on and they last alot longer as long as you maintain them. They are also bolted together with screws and bolts, not like the plastic clip together crap they have now. I work as a service advisor for a KIA dealership and all these new cars have plastic parts that just clip together. It's crap! I literally took off my hood, front grilles and headlight assys the other day on my e30 with a phillips screwdriver and a 10mm wrench. Everything was bolted on and was a dream to take apart and put together. They just don't build em like they used to.......

[JasonC]

Is that a Juke? It's like a grasshopper gone mech, I always am waiting for them to transform and start tearing up other cars.

Not to mention all the beautiful Japanese cars of the late 70's, maybe it's just me but damn..

:SNIP:
And that's just JDM...

You probably would like this thread here, http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=129817

[ejnight]

That 929 is bad ass

[JasonC]

I'd love to have another 70 Dart. But a small block stroker with a 4 speed though.