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  • dnick
    E30 Fanatic
    • Apr 2011
    • 1377

    #1

    m50 in 2002?

    So.. Ive seen a couple build threads on it.. one wasnt really complete and the other isnt even really a thread.. What would need to be done to make it work? Ive got this idea spinning in the back of my head..
  • acolella76
    R3VLimited
    • Apr 2010
    • 2950

    #2
    Why? An M50 in that chassis will handle like a boat I'm sure
    -Alex

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    • dnick
      E30 Fanatic
      • Apr 2011
      • 1377

      #3
      well.. ive got an m50 with 60k in a wrecked e30.. and a 2002 about 3 hrs away from me that a friend wants sold... different i guess? that i guess is a downside, that the engine is kind of heavy for that chassis.

      i know it'd be a big project.. but im trying to think what would have to be done

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      • Kershaw
        R3V OG
        • Feb 2010
        • 11822

        #4
        ls7.
        AWD > RWD

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        • straight6pwr
          No R3VLimiter
          • Sep 2004
          • 3450

          #5
          sure its heavier than than other choices, but its really the best value out there. the power gain is the same as putting in an s14, just a little more weight with it.

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          • pwagon717
            E30 Enthusiast
            • Jun 2007
            • 1197

            #6
            To much work, and a lot of stuff you have to swap over. Looked into myself, better off putting in a M20. Look up Paul Cain, then see if you are man enough.
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            • SkiFree
              R3VLimited
              • Jun 2011
              • 2766

              #7
              Originally posted by straight6pwr
              sure its heavier than than other choices, but its really the best value out there. the power gain is the same as putting in an s14, just a little more weight with it.
              I disagree. is this based off of experience or speculation?

              Unless you're willing to put as much effort as Paul did into his swap (tranny in rear, etc.) than it's not a good value (even though it might seem that way on paper).

              The only way something like this would be remotely worth considering is if you used the alloy block out of the Z3 (250lb. [incidentally the same weight as the M20] compared to 300lb iron block engine).
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              • dnick
                E30 Fanatic
                • Apr 2011
                • 1377

                #8
                link to said paul guy?

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                • SkiFree
                  R3VLimited
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 2766

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dnick
                  link to said paul guy?
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                  • VinniE30
                    R3VLimited
                    • May 2010
                    • 2113

                    #10
                    Just get an e30 shell and swap over everything you already have.

                    2002's are really cool but I wouldn't put anything but a 4 cylinder in it. S14 2002's are sweet... and very fast.
                    If you want to swap a 2002 I would do an s14. If your budget is too strict for that then do an m42 swap.
                    m50 swap into a 2002 is pretty involved from what I know. Do some searching on 2002FAQ.com
                    Zinno '89 <24v swap in progress>

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                    • 8380 Labs
                      Forum Sponsor
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 2990

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dnick
                      Ive got this idea spinning in the back of my head..
                      you're one of those guys that starts lots of projects but never finishes them, aren't you. :D
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                      • rares
                        Mod Crazy
                        • May 2010
                        • 730

                        #12
                        Dear OP. huge engine in a little body is called a hot rod. I say do it all the way. Sounds like a cool idea and will make some nice power. Lots of people are doing it in england. Just be safe and have fun.

                        Good luck.
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                        • SkiFree
                          R3VLimited
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 2766

                          #13
                          Originally posted by rares
                          Lots of people are doing it in england.
                          Links to said "lots of people" please.
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                          • ForcedFirebird
                            R3V OG
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 8300

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SkiFree
                            I disagree. is this based off of experience or speculation?

                            Unless you're willing to put as much effort as Paul did into his swap (tranny in rear, etc.) than it's not a good value (even though it might seem that way on paper).

                            The only way something like this would be remotely worth considering is if you used the alloy block out of the Z3 (250lb. [incidentally the same weight as the M20] compared to 300lb iron block engine).
                            Last summer my friends and I put and entire e30 subframe set, suspension, diff, modified D/S, g260, m20, 524td manifold, t3 turbo, e30 firewall, and e30 trans tunnel in a 75 2002. It's a LOT of work. If you don't use the tunnel, the trans won't fit and if you don't modify/change the firewall, then engine will stick 4" out of the front of the car.

                            Took 3 major fabricators and probably about 4-6 extra sets hands hundreds and hundreds of hours to do. Every night and all weekend for months, many many 3 or 4am nights. We started it the night before the $2011 Grassroots Challenge (1st week Oct), the project started beginning of Aug.
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                            • SkiFree
                              R3VLimited
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 2766

                              #15
                              ^Exactly, this isn't something some to take lightly, it will require extensive re-vamping to get to function well (and re-vamping being done by someone who does this for a living, not someone who's source for knowledge is a forum). I know how long it took the guys next door to do their Import Tuner shootout car with M20 turbo/E30 suspension/Diff. NOT for the feint of heart.

                              I assume that the particular car you're talking about was sporting the RedBaron motiff?
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