Subaru BRZ STI

[gtdragon980]

A bit of a bump from the dead, but I find the comparison between an FRS and a 24v E30 interesting. I'm liking the FRS but can't see it replacing my e30.

I'm graduating soon with a secure job in mechanical engineering and am in the position to replace my college car, an M52 E30. After a little research, I was psyched to go test drive an FRS. Same power to weight as my e30, the reliability of a Toyota, and I even dig the styling. So, I went to two dealerships only to be told they absolutely needed a $500 deposit to drive the ($25k) car. No warranted insults to the absurdity of this rule would cause them to budge. They explained this was due to the demand and rarity of the FRS. Even though this a temporary issue, I can't help but weigh the cost vs benefits of the FRS. We all know the stats.

I can't imagine it being $20k more fun than a 24v e30. I wasn't one bit regretful leaving in my e30. I park where I want, beat it without a second thought, pay nothing in insurance and the list goes on. The more I thought about it, the FRS is nice but I'm damn happy with my e30.

Other than the feeling of driving a new car versus an old car, not to mention the reliability of it. I see what you are saying though, $6000 for s5x swap or $25k new car with similar specs.

[Eric]

So much hate.

Oh no, a car company is actually building a car that is similar to what enthusiasts want. Oh the horror.

Can't believe people who drive 168hp E30's are boo-hooing over such a cool car!

[decay]

Can't believe people who drive 168hp E30's are boo-hooing over such a cool car!

sour grapes...

[MrBurgundy]

I think it's a great car, but I still can't have more fun driving anything else beside my E30. I've been cursed.

[Deathtoll]

An Sti version of the car would be pretty darn fun to drive.

280 doesn't seem like a whole lot these days, I mean I know the car is 2758 lbs but still. Why couldn't they just really tune it out to 300.. or more?

Well, i'm sure Cobb Tuning will be able to fix that problem. I'm a huge Subaru fan and it would be interesting to go back to a Subie again.

I just don't think I want to spend 32k (or whatever it will come out to) on another car. The nice thing about the E30 is that it doesnt cost anything to drive but gas and insurance.

If my E30 ever feels slow I can always supercharge it at Castros or something.

I've sat in a FRS and let me tell you, it's FREAKING tiny. The E30 has ALOT more interior volume and luggage space. It's a totally different class when it comes to room. STI BRZ sales will not eat into WRX sales simply because it can't haul jack crap.

I'm 5'6 165 lbs and the FRS made me feel like I was wearing spandex when I sat inside. The backseats are TOTALLY useless unless you just want to stuff a backpack or something back there,

[craiggroves91]

Can't believe nobody has posted this yet

[Stiggy]

A friend has an FRS and I've had a chance to drive it. I like it. The steering is very sharp. The seating position is excellent. The engine is a little uninspiring. The same $25k will buy a good used Lotus Elise. Another ~$6k puts a supercharger on it and takes it to 260 hp in a 2000 lb car. I like the FRS. But I love the Elise.

[Deathtoll]

Can't believe nobody has posted this yet

I wish it came like that from factory

[Stanley Rockafella]

I will be getting one the day it comes out and likely say goodbye to the E30s.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/su...xer-50862.html

Fukken EH OP!!!!

So glad to see your finally seeing the light.

There's more to life than clinging to the past

[Herr Faust Schinken]

Can't believe people who drive 168hp E30's are boo-hooing over such a cool car!

more like 140 hp maybe

i haven't had the opportunity to drive one yet so I'm receiving my judgement until then, the styling isn't my favorite but that largely due to the wheels, it does however look different than every other car on the road and i like that

[randomtask37]

Both the FRS and BRZ would be hella fun cars. You know they can be modded out. I mean shit, the first e30's were m10's with boatloads of power... and by that i mean about as much power as a dingy. It would be stupid to think that these cars dont evolve over the next few years. And being they are toyota/subaru, there are going to be tons of affordable aftermarket parts.

If i felt like having a low'ish car payment for a sports car, I would seriously consider an FRS

[e30 gangsta]

Accelerated performance is making 631hp hp at the moment. They are running e85 and a gt30/35r, oh yea on the stock ecu. Pretty cool stuff if you ask me. And the motor is still the same stock fa20 no headstuds, arp bolts nothing. Stock.

[Jon325i]

I've had a chance to sit in a BRZ briefly. Seating position and ergonomics are very nice. Doesn't have the 'greenhouse' effect like the E30 so rearward visibility isn't as good. It sort of reminds me of my Porsche 924 from years ago.

In reading the various articles and videos published about this car and the FRS, the focus seems to be more on the driving experience it delivers. A lot of bench racers have talked about how, based on reading specs alone, its just not good enough. I bet the base car would be a blast....sure its not uber fast but the handling and feedback are its strong points, much like a mildly tuned (stock powered E30 325i). And that's what reviewers who have driven this car are saying. You can access all of the performance a lot of the time. Nowadays when you have a sports oriented car with 300+ BHP on tap, to unwind and get the most out of its performance you either run the risk of making some cops' day or wait until you get to an auto-x or track day event.

In a few years, when depreciation has set in on the early examples, finding one priced in the mid-teens could be common.


Jon

[rightcoastbias]

In a few years, when depreciation has set in on the early examples, finding one priced in the mid-teens could be common.

Jon

I don't think anyone can deny the appeal of these cars entering the used car market.

Discussing dropping $25k to void and otherwise negate the benefits of buying a new car is a bit absurd.

[AntiScope]

does it come with a flat brim hat

Yes, and you have to rock a chin strap.