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  • slammin.e28
    שמע ישראל
    • May 2010
    • 12054

    #61
    I can't drive a car with pushrods. I don't want something to go wrong and a pushrod fly into my face.
    1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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    • ForcedFirebird
      R3V OG
      • Feb 2007
      • 8300

      #62
      Compare this to even lsx e30 swaps. engine is far back in the bay, and have plenty of room on the sides to work on stuff, and it keeps the COG in the same place as the m42, only they put out almost 2x the power in stock form...

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      • ForcedFirebird
        R3V OG
        • Feb 2007
        • 8300

        #63
        Originally posted by slammin.e28guy
        I can't drive a car with pushrods. I don't want something to go wrong and a pushrod fly into my face.

        You will be better suited to have a slap in the face with a timing belt.
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        • slammin.e28
          שמע ישראל
          • May 2010
          • 12054

          #64
          Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
          You will be better suited to have a slap in the face with a timing belt.
          Meh, all my cars have chains, so I've nothing to worry about in life.
          1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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          • rich4rdee
            E30 Addict
            • Apr 2010
            • 595

            #65
            Originally posted by tjts1
            Show me a smaller, lighter package that puts out more power and torque. Go ahead find one. Theres a few very good reasons why people are swapping LSx motors into BMWs and not the other way around.

            Displacement doesn't tell you shit.
            if it ain't broke don't fix it...i get it. i'm not arguing that the SBC motor isn't one of the best ever designed, just that there's so many slight variations of it over the last 40 or so years that i find them a little boring.

            don't get me wrong, i'd love to rag on a zr1 or ls powered e30. :)

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            • slammin.e28
              שמע ישראל
              • May 2010
              • 12054

              #66
              Originally posted by rich4rdee
              i'm not arguing that the SBC motor isn't one of the best ever designed...
              You're not arguing because the BMW M30 is the best engine ever designed....EVER.
              1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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              • JGood
                R3V OG
                • Jan 2004
                • 7959

                #67
                Sounds like a sweet engine to me. OHC's require a lot of room, especially DOHC's on a V8. And with that comes a lot more $$$... Timing chains, tensioners, guides, four cams, etc... Making maintenance and modifications stupid expensive.


                If I had this much room in my engine bay, I wouldn't know what to do. There's room for about 8 turbo's, a 12 core radiator, a front differential, and some room to store luggage as well!


                Originally posted by ForcedFirebird


                For comparison... The non-existent free space in my engine bay:

                85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                e30 restoration and V8 swap
                24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                • ForcedFirebird
                  R3V OG
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 8300

                  #68
                  Originally posted by JGood
                  Sounds like a sweet engine to me. OHC's require a lot of room, especially DOHC's on a V8. And with that comes a lot more $$$... Timing chains, tensioners, guides, four cams, etc... Making maintenance and modifications stupid expensive.


                  If I had this much room in my engine bay, I wouldn't know what to do. There's room for about 8 turbo's, a 12 core radiator, a front differential, and some room to store luggage as well!





                  For comparison... The non-existent free space in my engine bay:
                  Not only that, but that tiny little motor does 201hp STOCK, too bad it only has 221 ft/lb - like I said, though, we have gotten 270whp/265wtq with cam, porting, headers and a tune...nice to think about it only weighing 300-ish with headers. Will have to weigh the next one in race trim, the one I weighed at 340lbs, again, had the stock cast exhaust on it. also nice thing about pushrod engines, ONLY HAVE TO BUY ONE CAM!!! :D Even roller cams only run about $300 or so.
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                  • JasonC
                    Site Manager
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 14451

                    #69
                    Originally posted by slammin.e28guy
                    I can't drive a car with pushrods. I don't want something to go wrong and a pushrod fly into my face.
                    Hypocrite much? http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...2&postcount=32

                    1992 BMW 325iC
                    1978 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
                    1965 Chevrolet Corvair Monza 140hp

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                    • slammin.e28
                      שמע ישראל
                      • May 2010
                      • 12054

                      #70
                      Originally posted by JasonC
                      That car is gone and so are the memories with it.

                      It's like a pushrod prodding at my heart...I try not to think about it anymore.

                      I do yearn for that Mopar muscle from time to time, but I'm too stuck in BMW land to get out, for now. Plus too, old Mopars are soooo expensive. Ugh.
                      1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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                      • Holland
                        R3V OG
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 7176

                        #71
                        Originally posted by JasonC
                        Oh shit.
                        1985 M10b18. 70maybewhpoffury. Over engineered S50b30 murica BBQ swap in progress.

                        Originally posted by DEV0 E30
                        You'd chugg this butt. I know you would. Ain't gotta' lie to kick it brostantinople.

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                        • 10Toes
                          Me Father Was A Tree
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 61222

                          #72
                          Inline six is da bes

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                          • JasonC
                            Site Manager
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 14451

                            #73
                            Originally posted by iansane
                            Just an FYI, the one on the right is a gen1 SBC. Which is a horribly reliable motor, but does not make a lot of power without a good chunk of change. The gen3/4/5 motors have incredibly similar footprints but share no parts whatsoever. Literally nothing interchanges. The bellhousing bolt pattern is only thing that is the same and even that uses different thread bolts. SAE vs Metric. The awesomeness that is the SBC really didn't start shining until '97. Before that it was mainly, 'lets just throw more fuel at it until it's awesome!' Which works, but is probably where most of this "old technology" mantra comes from.

                            Haha. Hell, I didn't even look close enough. That's a FORD small block on the right.
                            LOL What?!?!?!? Now you must be one of the guys on here that live under a rock! Seeing that there are so many variations of the 1st gen SBC, they very in form from high HP to a boat anchor! I do got to ask, what wasn't reliable about them? And every Hot Rodder, drag racer and anyone who has been in the domestic car scene would get a kick out of it not shining till 1997 You call yourself a GM fan boy. But seems that you know nothing beyond the newer LS series.

                            1992 BMW 325iC
                            1978 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
                            1965 Chevrolet Corvair Monza 140hp

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                            • JasonC
                              Site Manager
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 14451

                              #74
                              Originally posted by 10Toes
                              Inline six is da bes
                              Blue Flame Six for life!!!!!









                              But in all seriousness, inline sixes are nice a smooth engines. I like them!

                              1992 BMW 325iC
                              1978 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
                              1965 Chevrolet Corvair Monza 140hp

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                              • ForcedFirebird
                                R3V OG
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 8300

                                #75
                                Originally posted by slammin.e28guy
                                That car is gone and so are the memories with it.

                                It's like a pushrod prodding at my heart...I try not to think about it anymore.

                                I do yearn for that Mopar muscle from time to time, but I'm too stuck in BMW land to get out, for now. Plus too, old Mopars are soooo expensive. Ugh.
                                You post just to post. All of a sudden you don't like the Mopar because pushrods are brought up.

                                Originally posted by JasonC
                                LOL What?!?!?!? Now you must be one of the guys on here that live under a rock! Seeing that there are so many variations of the 1st gen SBC, they very in form from high HP to a boat anchor! I do got to ask, what wasn't reliable about them? And every Hot Rodder, drag racer and anyone who has been in the domestic car scene would get a kick out of it not shining till 1997 You call yourself a GM fan boy. But seems that you know nothing beyond the newer LS series.
                                He said they ARE reliable, just not powerful haha.

                                Oh, and as far as bringing back the RPO code (name of motor aka lt1), GM has done that for every generation. First gen ls6 was a 454, first gen lt1 was a 350 etc etc.
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