Speeding ticket: Cops allowed to park on shoulder facing opposite direction on hwy?

[Earendil]

You don't HAVE to speed. If you can't afford a ticket, drive the speed limit. This is an instance where you bring the fines, etc upon yourself. It doesn't become a burden until you decide it's worth the risk to get where you're going 5 seconds sooner.

You've got to pay to play. If you want to waste money on fines/fees/court costs/DMV bullshit, speed.

I for one do not like having anything to do with the justice system/government, therefore I don't speed.

Do accidents and mistakes never happen to you? Have you ever been driving a normal route, and suddenly realized the speed limit sign has changed values, and you wonder when that happened? Do you pay all income and sales taxes on all income and financial transactions?

There is a certain "pay to play", and in that regard sure, I guess you can think of the system as a "Step right up, pay $300 to go however fast you want on the freeway!". But I personally don't that is a good way to think about laws, or justice. A crime should have a punishment, and that punishment should fit the crime.

Financial punishments are difficult because the level of punishment is dependent on the individual. This is why we get upset when we see that a company like Apple has been fined 10,000 dollars for breaking the law. We all instinctively realize that the punishment did not fit the crime. If you or I broke the same law and were fined the same thing (depending on the law broken) we might consider it just.

[InuFaye]

Accidents and mistakes do happen, and you get to pay for them.

[CorvallisBMW]

I'm not 100% on this, but I believe a police officer on the side of the road must, at the very least, have his parking lights on. Otherwise it's a pretty serious safety issue. Might want to explore that possibility if you have a lawyer/friend in the law biz

[WhyNot]

even though you missed out when you got pulled over, you can still try this trick in court.
first be loud and agressive.
tell the cop, and the judge that you pay their salary.
then tell them you will sue.
they will drop the whole thing

[JBird]

I do have a good friend who is a lawyer, but I'm not sure she knows about the traffic stuff. I'll ask her.

even though you missed out when you got pulled over, you can still try this trick in court.
first be loud and agressive.
tell the cop, and the judge that you pay their salary.
then tell them you will sue.
they will drop the whole thing

hahaha I am not trying to get out of the whole thing though..

Hey, F34R, you did a better job at making a joke like that over the internet...Although, I still don't agree with perpetuating jokes and stereotypes like that. :)

[Earendil]

Accidents and mistakes do happen, and you get to pay for them.

And at what point is paying for it no longer just? I think we'd agree that a million dollars for 1mph over is not just, but $1 for 30mph over is just silly. If we can agree on that, then at some point we reach a "just" punishment for the crime.

Out of curiosity, do you think that a person who accidentally causes the death of another person should be punished the same as a person who meticulously plans and executes a persons death? The US courts find their to be a difference, I'm curious if you do. The end result is the same, only the intent changes.

This is actually a philosophical difference that a lot of people don't agree upon. There are two things that you can call morally wrong, "intent" and "Result". One common saying that illustrates this is "The Ends justify the Means".

We tend to apply this different to different crimes. We'll say that if I accidentally cause the death of someone else, that while the end result is terrible, the intent was not to kill, so I am not morally wrong. On the other hand we'll say that if I intend to kill someone and utterly fail, that I am still morally in the wrong and should be punished (conspiracy to commit murder).

You want a punishment for speeding that will cause people to be "more careful". But at some point, you have enough drivers on the road that mistakes are just GOING to happen. Now what we have is a random punishment act on a certain percentage of the population.

FYI: Cops are neither trained nor should they be to contemplate the above. Judge's however are, and that's why we have them.

[dougie30]

Should a kicked the shit out of him

[travish325]

I've noticed the original post that I read has changed a bit since the first time I read it.

I'll go to a different thread if you promise to shave your pits.

Deal?

[F34R]

Hey, F34R, you did a better job at making a joke like that over the internet...Although, I still don't agree with perpetuating jokes and stereotypes like that. :)

I agree with you about those sexist jokes, Bitches hate them.

[mrsleeve]

Did not read thread


COPs can do most anything they want....................................... Even if they are not supposed too so long as they are making money for the municipality

[LSM3]

:-(

[Mossman]

just be happy you're not black, pay your fine and move on.

[jlevie]

Whether the stop was legal with the officer parked on shoulder, lights off, and facing the wrong way, depends on the laws of the state. But it probably is.

The simple fact, regardless of where the where the officer was is that the OP was exceeding the posted speed limit. The type of road, the time of day, or traffic has nothing to do with that. If you break the law you run the risk of punishment.

[evandael]

ITT, vindictive waffleswaffleswaffleswaffless and holier-than-thou douchenozzles.


Just show up for the hearing and hope the officer forgot. Pay the fine, go to traffic school to mitigate the points, and be more aware of patrol cars.

[craiggroves91]

Or do a TBWD like I've said a million times and increase your chances of winning three fold or more.