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  • Cabriolet
    R3V OG
    • Apr 2010
    • 9620

    #16
    the giubo arrows alternate. so since the driveshaft and the transmission each have 3 flanges EACH flange gets an arrow pointing towards it. it's the little "V" on the giubo.
    Much wow
    I hate 4 doors

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    • JinormusJ
      R3V OG
      • Dec 2011
      • 6887

      #17
      There are 6 small arrow notches that alternate direction, meaning, if your looking at an arrow that points left, the next one will point right and vice versa.

      That being said; the arrows ALWAYS point to a flange and NEVER points to a nut. Essentially, there are many ways of wording it, but the arrows will always point to the flange/bolt head and never toward the threaded end of the bold/nut. Guibos are offset so that they are reinforced on the side that touch metal; putting it in backwards means the reinforcement is on the other side and will cause premature guibo failure

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      • ///M42 sport
        No R3VLimiter
        • Oct 2003
        • 3952

        #18
        I see
        Renting my rear wheel bearing tool kit. SIR
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        • Cabriolet
          R3V OG
          • Apr 2010
          • 9620

          #19
          updated the first post.
          Much wow
          I hate 4 doors

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          • brianao34
            Mod Crazy
            • Jun 2010
            • 660

            #20
            Time to recheck...

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            • YosemiteSam
              E30 Fanatic
              • Apr 2011
              • 1303

              #21
              I'm just saying this to help alleviate future confusion. In your initial post you quote JinormousJ saying that the arrows always point towards a flange and never towards a nut, then you post one picture of an incorrectly installed guibo and one of a correctly installed one. On both the correct and incorrect installation the arrow is pointing towards a nut, it's just that on the correct installation it is pointing towards a flange and a nut. You should either remove the part about pointing at a nut altogether, or if that really is important you should find a picture of one where the arrows are not pointing to nuts at all.
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              • txtorquemade
                E30 Mastermind
                • Mar 2009
                • 1758

                #22
                Bottom line here, if you can't tell from the above pics whats right, probably best you don't do the job.
                sigpic 1987 325is

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                • e30vert
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 1789

                  #23
                  Great information! Was unaware myself and I can see how this could cause multiple scratch your head moments if installed incorrectly over and over again.

                  Might as well add torque specs to the nuts in the post for added info.

                  Good stuff! This gives me inspiration to change my Giubo since it has not been done in approx 140 K miles. Might as well do the CSB at the same time I imagine.

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                  • JinormusJ
                    R3V OG
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 6887

                    #24
                    Okay, I think it's time for final clarification; I haven't changed a guibo in a while so my information, while correct, isnt entirely clarified

                    When dealing with what makes initial contact (what is making contact with the Guibo, the flange, or the bolt head/nut)
                    The arrows on the guibo always point to contact on a FLANGE
                    It should never point to contact on a NUT


                    I think that covers all bases; Eric, you can go ahead and requote this if you'd like

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                    • Cabriolet
                      R3V OG
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 9620

                      #25
                      Originally posted by e30vert
                      Might as well add torque specs to the nuts in the post for added info.
                      there is no way to get a torque wrench in then when installing. so i go as tight as i can with 2 17mm wrenches.

                      Originally posted by e30vert
                      Might as well do the CSB at the same time I imagine.
                      do not just replace the bearing. get the whole housing, since the rubber wears out too. kinda like doing a timing belt w/out doing a water pump. - the older part will fail you just after doing it.

                      Originally posted by txtorquemade
                      Bottom line here, if you can't tell from the above pics whats right, probably best you don't do the job.
                      truth!
                      stop spitting hairs. the arrows all point towards the flanges. if they are installed any other way, it's installed wrong period.
                      Last edited by Cabriolet; 03-04-2013, 11:27 AM.
                      Much wow
                      I hate 4 doors

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                      • CabbE30
                        R3VLimited
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 2358

                        #26
                        Am I the only one that reads the directions that come with parts?
                        You can also tell by which parts of the giubo are reinforced.
                        Seems too easy to miss, but I guess its too easy to overlook also.
                        Sticky in the Driveline section I suppose?

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                        • enigmaticdream
                          E30 Addict
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 572

                          #27
                          Apparently people don't read their Bentley...
                          1986 911 Supercharged Frakenstrat/Stripped
                          1987 325is Delphin/Black (Olga)
                          1988 M3 Zinno/Natur (Elsa)

                          Manual or STFU

                          E30 Chapter of BMW Car Club of America
                          E30 Oktoberfest 2017

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                          • AndrewBird
                            The Mad Scientist
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 11892

                            #28
                            Also to add, the nylon lock nuts should be replaced as well. They are technically only one time use and can come undone if reused.

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                            • e30vert
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 1789

                              #29
                              Originally posted by CabbE30
                              Am I the only one that reads the directions that come with parts?
                              You can also tell by which parts of the giubo are reinforced.
                              Seems too easy to miss, but I guess its too easy to overlook also.
                              Sticky in the Driveline section I suppose?
                              I like to read the pictures! <joking> . In all seriousness its good to have a reminder about how to do it the correct way.


                              do not just replace the bearing. get the whole housing, since the rubber wears out too. kinda like doing a timing belt w/out doing a water pump. - the older part will fail you just after doing it.
                              Good call Cab! Will go with that rationale!

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                              • 5Toes
                                Banned
                                • May 2010
                                • 9836

                                #30
                                so 3 nuts are on tranny side and the other 3 are on the driveshaft side?

                                Just took a a driveshaft out 6 hours ago and all the nuts were on the tranny side :(

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