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  • GillesBigCowboy
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    Horsepower etymology is romantic, but my internal dyno has a narrow, philosophical, and experiential preference for torque.

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  • dsphil
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    Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
    Trust me, it's foot. It wouldn't rip out of my hands when the hole saw catches if it were in/lb. Companies have come out with even heavier drills that are well over 700+ft/lb. You can literally chuck it on something solid, stand on it and it will spin you around. Hell, guys use them to power their pit bikes at the track...



    I am well aware of impacts, we have one at my shop that is 900ft/lb@175psi, and little battery powered ones that will do 100in/lb.
    LOL.. faster than eta..

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  • digger
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    Originally posted by Good & Tight
    I'm note dissing mate, just having fun, carry on.
    if you want to find out why you beat some other cars will need a dyno graph, gear box ratio, diff ratio, tyre size for both cars. you can plot hp vs mph for both and that will probably reveal it

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  • ForcedFirebird
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    Originally posted by dsphil
    are you sure it is 300ft/lb and not 300in/lb. impact will do 300ft/lb.
    Trust me, it's foot. It wouldn't rip out of my hands when the hole saw catches if it were in/lb. Companies have come out with even heavier drills that are well over 700+ft/lb. You can literally chuck it on something solid, stand on it and it will spin you around. Hell, guys use them to power their pit bikes at the track...



    I am well aware of impacts, we have one at my shop that is 900ft/lb@175psi, and little battery powered ones that will do 100in/lb.

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  • Good & Tight
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    Originally posted by digger
    if your mass is the same or heavier it is simple you obvious have more real hp available at the speeds you race at.

    without knowing more details it is not known the whether the car with higher peak hp is peakier delivery, not geared properly, doesn't actually make more hp, has no traction etc etc.

    professional racers crunch the numbers to optimise everything so dissing physics and maths is plain ignorance all the top race teams do it
    I'm note dissing mate, just having fun, carry on.

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  • digger
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    Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
    Anytime man.



    They are still relative pending gear ratio. His car peaks more TQ than HP, but has a long final drive.
    a flat hp curve can easily beat a peaky hp curve with higher peak. area under the curve....

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  • digger
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    Originally posted by Good & Tight
    Why am I beating 650+hp cars with my measly 550hp....?
    Am I doing something wrong ? If the car with the most HP is faster. Period WTF..?

    I'll keep my torque and you number crunching nerds can continue your argument.
    if your mass is the same or heavier it is simple you obvious have more real hp available at the speeds you race at.

    without knowing more details it is not known the whether the car with higher peak hp is peakier delivery, not geared properly, doesn't actually make more hp, has no traction etc etc.

    professional racers crunch the numbers to optimise everything so dissing physics and maths is plain ignorance all the top race teams do it

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  • dsphil
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    Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
    My DeWalt 18v cordless drill has 300ft/lb.
    are you sure it is 300ft/lb and not 300in/lb. impact will do 300ft/lb.

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  • ForcedFirebird
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    Originally posted by Good & Tight
    I've beaten lighter cars with more HP then me.
    That accelerator stick is genuine BMW btw. :-)

    John on a side note I need to return that fender roller. thanks dude..!
    Anytime man.

    Originally posted by nando
    I'd think your trans setup and traction have something to do with it.
    They are still relative pending gear ratio. His car peaks more TQ than HP, but has a long final drive.

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  • nando
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    Originally posted by Good & Tight
    Why am I beating 650+hp cars with my measly 550hp....?
    Am I doing something wrong ? If the car with the most HP is faster. Period WTF..?

    I'll keep my torque and you number crunching nerds can continue your argument.
    I'd think your trans setup and traction have something to do with it.

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  • Good & Tight
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    Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
    LOL! Because your car is a tin can with a stick for an accelerator pedal :P
    I've beaten lighter cars with more HP then me.
    That accelerator stick is genuine BMW btw. :-)

    John on a side note I need to return that fender roller. thanks dude..!

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  • ForcedFirebird
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    Originally posted by digger
    with a breaker bar and 3/4" drive i can better that
    Drill, not impact ;)

    Still more than an eta haha.

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  • ForcedFirebird
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    Originally posted by Good & Tight
    Why am I beating 650+hp cars with my measly 550hp....?
    Am I doing something wrong ? If the car with the most HP is faster. Period WTF..?

    I'll keep my torque and you number crunching nerds can continue your argument.

    LOL! Because your car is a tin can with a stick for an accelerator pedal :P

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  • Good & Tight
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    Why am I beating 650+hp cars with my measly 550hp....?
    Am I doing something wrong ? If the car with the most HP is faster. Period WTF..?

    I'll keep my torque and you number crunching nerds can continue your argument.

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  • digger
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    Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
    My DeWalt 18v cordless drill has 300ft/lb.
    with a breaker bar and 3/4" drive i can better that

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