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What is this Panjo crap
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Current:
'05 BMW M3 - Silver Grey/Imola Red
'90 BMW 325iX - Sterling Silver/Houndstooth sport(5-speed converted)
'15 Mini Countryman - Blazing Red/Carbon Black
Past:
'01 Audi Allroad - Light Silver/Platinum Saber Black
'88 BMW 325iX - Diamond Schwarz/Silver sport *Sold*
'01.5 1.8TQ - Brilliant Black/Nogaro Alcantara ...after 8.5yrs, *Sold* =(
'90 BMW 325i - Schwarz/Tan sport *Sold*
'89 BMW 325ix - Diamond Schwarz/Black sport *Sold*
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Selling I have no knowledge to comment on, but i have bought a lot off there. to avoid the Panjo fees, I have PMed the seller on the site and he gave me his paypal and we did it "off the books" I guess.
I have also been able to find things on there better, you can search the whole panjo site instead of just "Bimmerforums" or "r3vlimited" so you opens you up to more buyers.
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Originally posted by James Crivellone View PostThis, what Nando said above.
Here's the deal, Every.. Single.. Day, I get people complaining about users in for sale threads, prices too high, ripoffs, scammers, etc.. every... single...day.
So I respond to some of them, however i have a day job and a life, so I get behind, now I have people complaining about how, "James never responds, James does not care, etc...etc"
Panjo and I started talking and yes its also a business decision, I cannot handle playing Judge Judy for the classifieds section, I cannot ask someone for FREE to handle that either, Panjo works as a third party, hence why they need to be paid as well.
Yes, change sucks, No you don't need to use Panjo for payment if you don't want to, yes this is for the best.
Every single thing needs to at least pay for itself.. I ran this thing for over 6 years without making a dime on it, and at the point now I need R3V to be in the black on my books, its a business as well as something i'm very passionate about.
This year we lost money, the E30Picnic R3V party was down in attendance, so we lost about $600 bucks, that I paid for out of pocket, so all of those who attended could have a good time.
Please don't turn this into a, "James just wants to make money thing", and please don't turn this into a "this is the death of R3V thing"
The world is not free, every month I get hosting bills, we have server upgrades and replacement, licensing fee's, etc.. it all adds up..
Those running with pitchforks need to realize things from my perspective as well
However, after reading this I've changed my mind. I love R3vlimited and James is a stand up guy and R3v wouldn't be here without him. So, I 100% stand behind the decision to switch to Panjo if it means James gets to run R3v in the black. I don't like seeing that you have to spend so much of your own money on the site/picnic.
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Sign me up for a $50 annual fee to get back the old classifieds. I've made some real scores (Type 10 wheels, BBS RZ wheels, mint seat cushions, touring-specific parts, etc.) in the r3v classifieds. Where will I get these parts if all the sellers stop posting due to Panjo?????????1992 325i Cabrio
1988 320i Touring
2000 M5
1977 530i
2015 328i - Euro Delivery/Performance Center Delivery
BMWCCA
E30CCA
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James I don't see what sales transactions have to do with you? if people complain, tell them to not to buy or shop elsewhere. You don't need to hold hands or feel like you're somehow responsible. I've avoided Panjo on Bimmerforums and will avoid them here too. No wonder people are selling everything on CL and Facebook. It's really a shame because we look to the forums for deals as we are a community who help each other out. I'll just advertise the GE coils in my sig.Last edited by reelizmpro; 07-27-2016, 03:44 AM."I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj
85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER
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Originally posted by DELPHINtimecapsule View PostHow are people starting new classified threads without panjo? Because I really want to.
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Originally posted by ThatOneEuroE30 View PostI know some are just editing old post with new title and description.
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same, I didnt want to post things fs recently cuz of panjo since it was a real hassle to setup.
I wouldnt mind buying something but if its a hassle with panjo Id rather not.Renting my rear wheel bearing tool kit. SIR
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Buying wise just send the user a pm like you used to and bypass panjo. Thats just laziness on the buyers part. Its selling thats annoying.
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James,
Thank you for running the site for all of us to enjoy. I would be happy to pitch in an annual donation for special perks, access to (the old) classifieds, or just because.
I will not use panjo and will buy/sell parts elsewhere. Unfortunately for you, and the site, that means that the quality of the classifieds goes down due to less users while simultaneously depriving the site of revenue.
I think you'll find if we open it up for broader discussion on a donation for donation's sake, special status, or access to classifieds that you may raise more money than you imagine while also making everyone happy.
Respectfully,
Sean
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