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  • billy in slo
    Noobie
    • Nov 2007
    • 30

    #1

    325es Production numbers?

    I have searched and emailed Mike Miller at BMWCCA. (He didn't know) Does anyone know or even have a very good guess, as to the number of 325es' produced and/or sold in North America? Better yet, how many with a manual?
    I understand that some were sold as 87 models with an "is" spoiler, but most are 1986 models only. Very unique model, kind of an oxymoron, an ETA with a "sport" designation! Mine is red with tan leatherette, 5-spd., Mark D chip, ix basketweaves etc. Super fun to drive, great torque, LSD etc.
    Not looking to sell (ever) but current or future value is always a fun exercise.
    Thanks all.
  • 1843lamp
    Wrencher
    • Sep 2015
    • 276

    #2
    My ES is registered as an 87 but was made in 5/86, it also was delivered from the dealer with several optional extras as well as all the other regular "S " features,the cardinal interior is a little special too.The ES came with an IS style spoiler but the first ones only had two slots on the bottom instead of four like the later IS.This could be the start of an ES specific thread I have wondered how many different color combinations they came in and which are the hardest to find today.
    Last edited by 1843lamp; 09-19-2016, 05:59 PM.

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    • LateFan
      R3V Elite
      • May 2013
      • 4399

      #3
      We have a 5/86 build ES as well! Zinno / tan.

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      • HEIS83
        Noobie
        • Aug 2016
        • 27

        #4
        Originally posted by 1843lamp
        My ES is registered as an 87 but was made in 5/86, it also was delivered from the dealer with several optional extras as well as all the other regular "S " features,the cardinal interior is a little special too.The ES came with an IS style spoiler but the first ones only had two slots on the bottom instead of four like the later IS.This could be the start of an ES specific thread I have wondered how many different color combinations they came in and which are the hardest to find today.
        dark blue with blue interior, manual checking in.only had it about 2 or 3 months but so far its been enjoyed.

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        • 2mAn
          Señior Mod
          • Aug 2010
          • 20081

          #5
          A zinno/tan ES MIGHT be the most common E30 made, especially in the US
          Simon
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          • 1843lamp
            Wrencher
            • Sep 2015
            • 276

            #6
            Maybe Alpine/ black or tan?

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            • 2mAn
              Señior Mod
              • Aug 2010
              • 20081

              #7
              The ES cowcatcher had less openings than the IS cowcatcher because of the oil cooler, or lack thereof
              Simon
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              • 1843lamp
                Wrencher
                • Sep 2015
                • 276

                #8
                The early automatic and manual ES only has the two brake ducts,the four duct spoiler was probably introduced with later production ES cars.It looks like all IS cars regardless,had the four duct spoiler...to make the point clearer,you would have thought the ES automatics would have been produced with the four ducts but apparently the need was not clear at that time but when the IS was introduced the ducts were added and even though many cars had the manual transmission the factory did not bother to change the spoiler to a two duct for those manual cars.
                Last edited by 1843lamp; 09-20-2016, 09:23 PM.

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                • Das Delfin
                  R3VLimited
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 2293

                  #9
                  The es spoiler has two fewer openings than the is.. everyone knows this


                  it's a Kenny Powers quote on wheels

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                  • billy in slo
                    Noobie
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 30

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 2mAn
                    A zinno/tan ES MIGHT be the most common E30 made, especially in the US
                    It may be the most common es made but not e30 made! es was only produced for one year. I assume you mis-spoke, otherwise you are just wrong.

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                    • ELVA164
                      R3V Elite
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 4861

                      #11
                      What a weird thread.
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                      • 1843lamp
                        Wrencher
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 276

                        #12
                        It probably is a good idea to not try and clarify anything previously said ...things could get worse.

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                        • billy in slo
                          Noobie
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 30

                          #13
                          How much worse could it get? Seemed like a legit question at the time.

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                          • reelizmpro
                            R3V OG
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 9446

                            #14



                            Left is an 87 325eS white/black leather fully loaded automatic. Right is my modded 85 325e Auto with 2.7i manual conversion. Circa 1994. 'S' models were baller back in the day because there were no "S" package E30's prior to MY86. I remember guys in school were trying hard to make their 84 318i or whatever look like a 325eS/iS. We all were.

                            The eS is wearing it's original air dam with the 4 slots. My guess is due to BMW coming out with the 325iS in 87 as well so they consolidated the "air dam" into one version that could be used on both cars. As for how many were made...I have no idea. The production data (152000 325e's) I have doesn't distinguish between 325e and eS.
                            Last edited by reelizmpro; 09-25-2016, 07:40 PM.
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                            • Stanley Rockafella
                              R3V Elite
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 4056

                              #15
                              Forget about Alpina, e30 M3's and 325is, the 325es might be similar to the e30 m3 in value due to it's illusiveness in production numbers
                              If it's got tits or tires, it's gonna cost ya!

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