Comparison of ATHLON vs. INTEL Processors, isitjustasgood?

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  • Jordan
    R3V OG
    • Oct 2003
    • 12907

    #16
    Originally posted by nando
    who cares? most people with at least a 1ghz CPU have way more power than they need anyway.
    ROFL... RIIIIGHT...
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    • CiLK WuRM
      Grease Monkey
      • Oct 2003
      • 371

      #17
      HDTV porn needs at least 2ghz.

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      • Jordan
        R3V OG
        • Oct 2003
        • 12907

        #18
        Have you guys seen the kind of 3D modeling I like to do? My 2GHz P4 is wayyy too slow.
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        • MattM20
          Mod Crazy
          • Oct 2003
          • 641

          #19
          i realized a while back that i'll never be satisfied with the performance of any computer i own. the more megahertz and memory they get, the more gets hogged up by the newer programs and OS's.

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          • E30godz
            E30 Mastermind
            • Oct 2003
            • 1524

            #20
            i personally think the next leap in computers will come from how we interface with them...i mean the keyboard and mouse is decades behind the rest of computer technology in terms of advancment/replacement.

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            • nando
              Moderator
              • Nov 2003
              • 34827

              #21
              Originally posted by Jordan
              Have you guys seen the kind of 3D modeling I like to do? My 2GHz P4 is wayyy too slow.
              when's the last time you saw your mom do any 3d modeling? that's what I mean by MOST people, and I'm sure that includes a lot of people here, unless you do a lot of PC gaming or something.

              besides that, a 2ghz P4 is pretty slow anyway. clock for clock an inexpensive Athlon XP would rape it, especially in 3d rendering and FPU performance where AMD has had the upper hand since the days of the original Athlon. but for most people checking their email or posting on this website, it doesn't matter. Any new computer these days is overkill for the majority of people's uses.
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              • LikeCDoos
                R3VLimited
                • Jan 2004
                • 2522

                #22
                Originally posted by James Crivellone
                For Mobile Laptops = Intel Pentium-M
                I hope you meant Centrino...

                anyways i've got a P4 2.8Ghz HT Processor Watercooled and love it. my 2 cents

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                • nando
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 34827

                  #23
                  Originally posted by LikeCDoos
                  Originally posted by James Crivellone
                  For Mobile Laptops = Intel Pentium-M
                  I hope you meant Centrino...

                  anyways i've got a P4 2.8Ghz HT Processor Watercooled and love it. my 2 cents
                  centrino isn't a CPU, it's a collection of mobile technologies. ;)
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                  • LikeCDoos
                    R3VLimited
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 2522

                    #24
                    Originally posted by nando
                    Originally posted by LikeCDoos
                    Originally posted by James Crivellone
                    For Mobile Laptops = Intel Pentium-M
                    I hope you meant Centrino...

                    anyways i've got a P4 2.8Ghz HT Processor Watercooled and love it. my 2 cents
                    centrino isn't a CPU, it's a collection of mobile technologies. ;)
                    Whatever it is my dad has a dell laptop that runs solid

                    -weston (not a laptop guy)

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                    • kencopperwheat
                      King of Kegstands
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 14396

                      #25
                      :sits back and waits for Kris to chime regarding Dual G5 Macs:
                      Originally posted by Gruelius
                      and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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                      • CiLK WuRM
                        Grease Monkey
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 371

                        #26
                        Originally posted by kencopperwheat
                        :sits back and waits for Kris to chime regarding Dual G5 Macs:
                        :asks ken for some of his popcorn:

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                        • mspiegle
                          E30 Enthusiast
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 1026

                          #27
                          I'm not really going to read through this whole thread, but heres the deal:


                          The CPU is generally never at fault. Computers lockup because of shitty hardware, crappy software, improper heating, and shitty power supplies.

                          Shitty Hardware: Don't be cheap and buy shitty RAM. Buy the best RAM you can possibly afford. Also, try to match up your FSB speeds (use DDR400 RAM for a mobo/cpu that runs a 400MHz FSB). Don't use crap video cards, sound cards, or network cards.

                          Crappy Software: Use new or known-good drivers and keep your system up-to-date. Make sure you get the mobo/chipset drivers because they're VERY important.

                          Improper heating: Don't buy a waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles CPU fan, get something that is designed for the amount of heat your processor will let off. Also get some decent airflow in your case.

                          Shitty PSU: Another big no-no. Stick with the big brands out there like Antec and Enermax... unless you know who the good small guys are (zalman for example).


                          With that in mind, AMD systems usually experience instability because one of the above reasons. They aren't as forgiving as intel systems. You need to run a proper power supply, good cooling, and a good motherboard with good RAM.

                          There are things that AMD systems do better, things that intel systems do better. Find out what you wanna do, and pick the right system.

                          I've had a P3-533 that I could play quake3 and burn CDs @ the same time. Computer NEVER froze/crashed. I bought damn good hardware @ the time. Left this thing on for weeks at a time with no problems.

                          My work machine is an XP2000 running gentoo. I can easilly get a 60-day uptime on this machine because it was built properly.

                          Also, I work at an ISP with many servers of all different CPU-types. I've noticed that the AMD systems with good cooling are solid. The AMD systems that don't have as good of cooling tend to die of hardware failure.


                          My opinion is that you can make a kick-ass system with AMD or Intel parts assuming you know what you're doing and you use good hardware.
                          Michael Spiegle

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                          • spencers
                            E30 Enthusiast
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 1150

                            #28
                            Originally posted by mspiegle
                            With that in mind, AMD systems usually experience instability because one of the above reasons. They aren't as forgiving as intel systems. You need to run a proper power supply, good cooling, and a good motherboard with good RAM.
                            Exactly!

                            If you want a badass AMD system, buy parts from reputable manufacturers. No-name brands are a no-no.

                            That said, here's my shuttle

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