The Official 2008 F1 Series Thread

[z31maniac]

Ferrari anything 2008.

Testing times from Barcelona (February 1)

1. HAMILTON McLaren 1m22.263s
2. ALONSO Renault 1h22.889s
3. KUBICA BMW 1m22.983s
4. FISICHELLA Force India 1m23.015s
5. HEIDFELD BMW 1m23.270s
6. PAFFETT McLaren 1m23.349s
7. PIQUET Renault 1h23.367s
8. VETTEL Toro Rosso 1m23.387s
9. ROSBERG Williams 1m23.453s
10. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m23.491s
11. WEBBER Red Bull 1m23.547s
12. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso 1m23.836s
13. NAKAJIMA Williams 1m23.955s
14. BARRICHELLO Honda 1m24.125s
15. WURZ Honda 1m26.975s


Testing times from Barcelona (February 2)
1. VETTEL Toro Rosso 1m21.679s
2. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso 1m21.782s
3. HAMILTON McLaren 1m22.135s
4. KOVALAINEN McLaren 1m22.511s
5. KUBICA BMW 1m22.833s
6. ALONSO Renault 1m22.938s
7. PIQUET Renault 1m23.002s
8. HEIDFELD BMW 1m23.014s
9. WEBBER Red Bull 1m23.020s
10. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m23.322s
11. ROSBERG Williams 1m23.347s
12. NAKAJIMA Williams 1m23.948s
13. BUTTON Honda 1m23.959s
14. LIUZZI Force India 1m24.263s


BOLD = WTF?

Fisi can drive and the new owner is dumping a ton of money into personnel and development.

[sennafan]

I hope Lewis wins Spain this year!:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64969

[Jparkr]

I think:
1. Mclaren (my Lewis Man crush knows no bounds :D)
2. Ferrari
3. Team Willi, only becasue Nico
4. BMW
5. Alonso against Button

I want Force India to beat Toyota, because I like Mike Gascoyne.

Your dumb, I wonder how you "man" is gonna do with no world champion setting up his car this year.

1. Ferrari
2. BMW
3. Mercedes
4. Renault

*first to call it on force india!*

[sennafan]

Your dumb, I wonder how you "man" is gonna do with no world champion setting up his car this year.

1. Ferrari
2. BMW
3. Mercedes
4. Renault

*first to call it on force india!*

"Dumb" Nice. You mean the world champ that couldnt beat a rookie? BMW will start slow and have trouble catching up. Ferrari will be tough, but Lewis made a fool of Massa. So only Kimi is up for the fight.

[Hick]

Ferrari on top

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=41734

[sennafan]

That guy is flying. I hope McLaren can stay on the same track in OZ.

[skota]

Kimi took awhile to find a set-up in the car last year. I wont be surprised if he's faster this year. I may be biased though.

[elguapo84]

I'll be in Spain from March 25-April 30 this Spring...should I go to a race or qualifier in Catalonia? Anyone know how much it would cost for a ticket?

[Jparkr]

"Dumb" Nice. You mean the world champ that couldnt beat a rookie? BMW will start slow and have trouble catching up. Ferrari will be tough, but Lewis made a fool of Massa. So only Kimi is up for the fight.

Yeah dumb, I wonder how well you or I would do on a british team when our rookie british team mate is not only copying our car setup... but disobeying team orders and stealing final runs during qualifying and not being punished.

Ok for your idea the hamilton will be kicking ass and flying high this year, think again. Mercedes has to jump through too many loops for the FIA to be successful immediately. Not to mention neither Hamilton and Kov have racing experience in an F1 car without traction and launch control.

I cant stand people who are dense enough to think Hamilton is the fucking second coming or something.
Is he a good driver, yes.
Is he cool and relaxed, No he chocks.
Does he know anything about car setup, Not last year at least.
Does he owe all his successes to daddy, Definitely

I think BMW will be quick during races because of Heidfeld's leadership and experience without launch and traction.

/rant

[sennafan]

Yeah dumb, I wonder how well you or I would do on a british team when our rookie british team mate is not only copying our car setup... but disobeying team orders and stealing final runs during qualifying and not being punished.

Ok for your idea the hamilton will be kicking ass and flying high this year, think again. Mercedes has to jump through too many loops for the FIA to be successful immediately. Not to mention neither Hamilton and Kov have racing experience in an F1 car without traction and launch control.

I cant stand people who are dense enough to think Hamilton is the fucking second coming or something.
Is he a good driver, yes.
Is he cool and relaxed, No he chocks.
Does he know anything about car setup, Not last year at least.
Does he owe all his successes to daddy, Definitely

I think BMW will be quick during races because of Heidfeld's leadership and experience without launch and traction.

/rant

There is no reason to call names or use the language you used. Anyway lets look at your points.

Is it good to be English in an English team, I guess. Schumacher was never in a German team, Kimi has never been in a Finish team. Guys in the Ferrari pit would lay their life down for Schumacher.

Schumacher used Rubens’ set up. McLaren stopped letting Lewis use Alonso’s set up half way through the year when they were trying to appease Alonso and Lewis still almost walked away with the title.

I believe after Alonso threaten to turn McLaren in to the FIA he should have been sacked, but Ron stood by his word and gave him the same car until the last race. Flav would have buried a driver for that. Ferrari would have put a hit out on him.

Ron paid the way for Lewis from a young age, you’re correct, but you have to deliver when you get the equipment and he has.

Exhale hommie.

[Hick]

BMW better due to Heidfelds leadership and experence without launch/traction control.

WTF are you talking about?

Well, first off... all drivers have had experence without launch control, since it was banned 2 years ago. Secondly, Heidfeld raced maybe 3 times without traction control, and to further negate that, all cars are testing without traction control right now so that point will be void come March 16th.

Mclarens technical team is above and beyond BMWs. BMW may have 3rd place locked up but Ferrari and Mclaren will be much faster than BMW and the rest.

[Jparkr]

BMW better due to Heidfelds leadership and experence without launch/traction control.

WTF are you talking about?

Well, first off... all drivers have had experence without launch control, since it was banned 2 years ago. Secondly, Heidfeld raced maybe 3 times without traction control, and to further negate that, all cars are testing without traction control right now so that point will be void come March 16th.

Mclarens technical team is above and beyond BMWs. BMW may have 3rd place locked up but Ferrari and Mclaren will be much faster than BMW and the rest.

First off, launch control hasn't completely disappeared until this year. Teams and drivers used the traction settings to help starting launches.
Secondly, Heidfeld has been a team driver in F1 since 2000. Traction wasn't initiated till 2002. And not counting the years he was testing for Sauber before racing, He has had a little more then 3 races without traction. More like 4 seasons, making him one of (and this is from memory) 6 drivers , now, that have that experience.
Yes, all drivers have experience without TC, but not in an F1 car. So yes it is an advantage.

There is no reason to call names or use the language you used. Anyway lets look at your points.

Is it good to be English in an English team, I guess. Schumacher was never in a German team, Kimi has never been in a Finish team. Guys in the Ferrari pit would lay their life down for Schumacher.

True, but... Schumacher always got the support he needed from his team and team mates. Kimi/Massa/Ferrari's Relationship is the same. Just like when it was Alonso/Fisichella/Renult.
The same support Mercedes and Lewis did not give a very probable 3x champ, Alonso (seriously, how close did he come without a team mate?)

Schumacher used Rubens’ set up. McLaren stopped letting Lewis use Alonso’s set up half way through the year when they were trying to appease Alonso and Lewis still almost walked away with the title.

Sorry man, but Schumacher and Barrichello were diffrent. They both know how to set up a car, what they did was called sharing.
What Hamilton did was copied all of Alonso's set ups and track knowledge (When Alonso was sharing).
And I have no idea what your talking about with "walking away with the tittle". Once Alonso kept his set up secret, Hamilton fucked his car up (go figure) and finished 9th after a bad rainy day at the European GP; and 39 seconds behind Alonso in the British GP. Ron got him help setting up his cars after those GPs.

I believe after Alonso threaten to turn McLaren in to the FIA he should have been sacked, but Ron stood by his word and gave him the same car until the last race. Flav would have buried a driver for that. Ferrari would have put a hit out on him.

Agreed, I don't stand by his drama queen actions in anyway. But I understand his frustrations with no support and all. But he only threatened that because he wanted his contract terminated. He knew they were a twisted team at that point.

Ron paid the way for Lewis from a young age, you’re correct, but you have to deliver when you get the equipment and he has.

does not mean he is a boy wonder, that is why I called you dumb, I should have said that idea is dumb. Like mentioned above, He only delivered because he and Ron used Alonso.

Exhale hommie.

:bow: whew, I was holding my breath for a while.

[Vigrotica]

heidfeld ftw

[sennafan]

Jparkr2004, we can agree to disagree and enjoy the season. I like your passion for F1, it's good to see in the U.S.:D

[Jparkr]

Jparkr2004, we can agree to disagree and enjoy the season. I like your passion for F1, it's good to see in the U.S.:D

Indeed, i need more friends this into the sport