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  • James Crivellone
    Head Janitor
    • Oct 2003
    • 6301

    #31
    Originally posted by UNHCLL
    Oh No You Didun't!
    :)
    Oh yes I diiiiiud!

    Matt, lets the big kids enjoy our valve adjustments..thanks pookie!

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    • UNHCLL
      R3V OG
      • Oct 2003
      • 8789

      #32
      Originally posted by James Crivellone
      Some of us enjoy the S14/S38/M88 voodoo dance every time we turn the key.
      We did a dual row conversion on one about a year ago. Ugh...
      On another note, I know where there is a garage filled with M88/1 engines, left over "Spare Motors"... slide throttles, etc.

      And there is nothing like the scream of an S38 at full throttle, even in an M5... glorious.


      Cool stuff.
      -Chris
      Below the radar...

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      • MR 325
        Moderator
        • Oct 2003
        • 37827

        #33
        Originally posted by James Crivellone
        Oh yes I diiiiiud!

        Matt, lets the big kids enjoy our valve adjustments..thanks pookie!
        Indeed, I shall.
        BimmerHeads
        Classic BMW Specialists
        Santa Clarita, CA

        www.BimmerHeads.com

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        • WillisE30
          E30 Modder
          • Jan 2007
          • 831

          #34
          LOL, For the money the S52 is a better motor, be it a warmed over M50 or not. I've owned cars powered by both motors, is the S38 cooler? I think so, however, it's not worth the premium. For a similar investment you can have an S52 that will outperform the S38 across the board. For me that makes it a no brainer, now James is a dirty filthy purist so he thinks E30s should have period correct motors...HA
          sigpicFormer professional wrench thrower.
          Current:
          1988 325is S52
          Former:
          2008 Sparkling Graphite M3 Sedan(victim of home ownership)
          1988 M5
          1996 328is

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          • e30_kid89
            E30 Addict
            • Apr 2006
            • 489

            #35
            Lol, for the price of 24 new s38 valves you can have a low mileage s52 obd1 converted in a e30 with some spare cash for bolt-ons.;)

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            • thectrlguy
              E30 Enthusiast
              • Apr 2007
              • 1042

              #36
              Like most already said, if you can find a well maintained low miles S38... do it, sure the S52 is nice, puts down respectable numbers, easier to maintain, blah blah blah.....

              But it's got nothing on S38...

              Again, you're clearly spending a decent amount of cash, why spend 12K for a S52... seems ridiculous.

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              • BenM
                R3VLimited
                • Nov 2006
                • 2184

                #37
                Originally posted by James Crivellone
                Some of us enjoy the S14/S38/M88 voodoo dance every time we turn the key.
                Can I use this in a sig quote? That's good stuff.
                Originally posted by BillBrasky
                E36's are the Stephen Baldwin of the 3 series family. They barely hold everything together and they only sold a lot because of the popularity of their older sibling.
                1991 318i Alpine II - S50/5-lug swapped - track car
                1989 325i Cirrusblau - Daily
                1970 2500 - Malaga over Grey Cloth
                2012 F350 6.7PSD

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                • ZiMMie
                  E30 Modder
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 968

                  #38
                  why not try to locate a REAL Eurospec S50/2?

                  www.stancefactory.com

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                  • James Crivellone
                    Head Janitor
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 6301

                    #39
                    Originally posted by WillisE30
                    LOL, For the money the S52 is a better motor, be it a warmed over M50 or not. I've owned cars powered by both motors, is the S38 cooler? I think so, however, it's not worth the premium. For a similar investment you can have an S52 that will outperform the S38 across the board. For me that makes it a no brainer, now James is a dirty filthy purist so he thinks E30s should have period correct motors...HA
                    Hah Will :p yah bastid...

                    The issue for me is that everybody does an S5X/M5X motor swap these days, and while the S52 can get similar horsepower for less, its still not a real ///M Motor. Everything I do is unique..it may be somewhat purist, but its unique..gotta admit that (with the exception of the wheels, which were rather unique when I bought them)

                    My logic is this, some people buy the Corvette, I'd rather take the Porsche, smiling all the way to the poorhouse =)

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                    • James Crivellone
                      Head Janitor
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 6301

                      #40
                      Originally posted by BenM
                      Can I use this in a sig quote? That's good stuff.
                      Go for it :p

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                      • ZiMMie
                        E30 Modder
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 968

                        #41
                        Originally posted by James Crivellone
                        Hah Will :p yah bastid...

                        The issue for me is that everybody does an S5X/M5X motor swap these days, and while the S52 can get similar horsepower for less, its still not a real ///M Motor. Everything I do is unique..it may be somewhat purist, but its unique..gotta admit that (with the exception of the wheels, which were rather unique when I bought them)

                        My logic is this, some people buy the Corvette, I'd rather take the Porsche, smiling all the way to the poorhouse =)
                        Nice theory but not all of us lke the porsche u know.

                        www.stancefactory.com

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                        • Mphatik
                          Noobie
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 20

                          #42
                          If you want a 'plug-n-play' driver, then the S52 (OBD1) is a no brainer. If you want the cool and show factor then the S38 would take the cake...
                          Availabiltiy of either motor plus maintenance costs should be considered, unless money is no object.
                          sigpic
                          Mark
                          '91 325iX
                          '87 325is

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                          • James Crivellone
                            Head Janitor
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 6301

                            #43
                            Originally posted by ZiMMie
                            Nice theory but not all of us lke the porsche u know.
                            and not all of us like the M5X/S5X motors either ;)

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                            • Yakinho
                              Mod Crazy
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 650

                              #44
                              S38/M88 all the way

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                              • WillisE30
                                E30 Modder
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 831

                                #45
                                Originally posted by James Crivellone
                                Hah Will :p yah bastid...

                                The issue for me is that everybody does an S5X/M5X motor swap these days, and while the S52 can get similar horsepower for less, its still not a real ///M Motor. Everything I do is unique..it may be somewhat purist, but its unique..gotta admit that (with the exception of the wheels, which were rather unique when I bought them)

                                My logic is this, some people buy the Corvette, I'd rather take the Porsche, smiling all the way to the poorhouse =)
                                Logic like that leads people to dump copious amounts of money into FWD Hondas man. ;)

                                I can see where you're coming from, and it makes sense. If I really wanted bang for the buck I'd be throwing a Chebby treefity in some light RWD chasis and expounding the virtues of 50yr old technology. I like to be different too, but my priorities are a little different as are my price points. That's what keeps our hobby interesting.
                                sigpicFormer professional wrench thrower.
                                Current:
                                1988 325is S52
                                Former:
                                2008 Sparkling Graphite M3 Sedan(victim of home ownership)
                                1988 M5
                                1996 328is

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