Anybody think it's scarey when you can get

[M-technik-3]

a Toyota Corolla with 170 hp? What happened to anemic penny pinchers?

[LikeCDoos]

you can get a neon with 215+ :?

[e30Matt]

you can get a neon with 215+ :?

And a pickup truck with 500. :(

[M-technik-3]

Yes but there has always been a ACR prepped Neon. But a Corolla and it probably still gets 28 mpg.

[Sherwination]

I think the new Scion Xc (obviously a Toyota ) is running 170 Hp and it will most likely have plenty of mods offered, thats what Scion is all about.

[e30Matt]

I think the new Scion Xc (obviously a Toyota ) is running 170 Hp and it will most likely have plenty of mods offered, thats what Scion is all about.

Every Scion around here is loaded with stereo equipment and show goodies... power isn't really the big issue in a squared off car. The new one looks like it'll be a good starter for mods, though.

[Tangent]

What really upsets me is knowing that there are more than a few SUVs that'll smoke me in a straight line. Mom's soccer-mobile in the next lane over could hand me my a$$ and there isn't a thing I could do about it. On top of that there are loads of plain-jane sedans that are sporting crazy power figures too. :oops: I can almost accept that there's a Neon available that'll annihilate me bone stock and will make me look just plain stupid with under a grand worth of mods since it is turboed and Dodge has built more turbo cars than anybody else...

[MattM20]

not to mention 240hp 6speed honda accords :(

[mgold]

Yes but there has always been a ACR prepped Neon.

Yeah but the ACR Neon's were stock cars, not high horsepower turbos like the SRT-4. Just stripped down sedans with the same 150hp as the standard cars.

[nando]

who cares, most of the people driving those cars will never get close to even using half of their potential. you can still leave a big powerful SUV in the dust if you know how to drive :P

[E30godz]

well stoplight to stoplight, being a consistent driver of a slower car would makes it physically impossible to beat consistent drivers (read: automatic) of more powerful vehicles that accelerate faster. So knowing how to drive has little to do with it "on the road".... I also think its pretty much a given that the smaller, lighter car with an "enthusiastic" driver will "still leave a big powerful SUV in the dust" against some soccer mom in a highhorsepower tank on some sort of race course.



but it isnt a roadcourse..









yatze!

[nando]

I rarely drive stoplight to stoplight, so I wouldn't know. ;)

[Rob]

who cares, most of the people driving those cars will never get close to even using half of their potential.

make sure to include everyone in those general statements

[Brew]

not to mention 240hp 6speed honda accords :(

Front wheel drive 240hp 6speed honda accords. :roll:

[Rob]

and?