F*ck Walmart

[parkerbink]

No im not arguing, if you read i say i like being a sheep ;). And the math i did was multiplying 4 cents times a bone dry 16 gal tank. which then equals 64. "Hey thar you A rabs, Im 'Merican gimme cheap gas"...thats pretty ABSURD.

My Land cruiser has a 27 gallon tank.

Most of our gas comes from Canada. I have no problem paying a reasonable price for a commodity.

Apparently your quote should be : "Hai world I am not too bright take advantage of me"

[DSP74]

Take advantage of everyone. You'd have to be a def, blind, retard to not see that this is ruining the economy.

[rwh11385]

Are you fucking kidding me. You think the fucking record profits would have the dumb fucks like you thinking twice about just bending over and taking it. Like your kind does about everything. That's whats wrong with this fucking country. Ball less fucks unable to band together and stand up for what they beleive in.

DIE

chill the fuck out, and get sum education. as much as I'd like the big oil companies to stop keeping E85 out of stations, they are not to blame. in talking and shooting the shit with my friend at exxon, he reminded me that the majority of rise in gas prices is from crude prices - which they don't control, but the market and speculation does.

crude price per gallon has gone up 4-6x what it was even in the late 90s. just be glad gas isn't $5/gal (in part thanks to ethanol)



Refinery margin in 97-01: .33, .32. .40, .42, .58
Refinery margin in 08: $0.38 $0.24 $0.23 $0.21 $0.33 $0.23 $0.25 $0.30 $0.31 $0.24 $0.33 $0.44 $0.48 $0.36 $0.37 $0.28 $0.31

http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/margins/index.html

97-01 crude oil price per gallon: $.40
now it's $2.50+, even $3+ now. only way to have $1.90 gas would be to lose more than a $1 on it, not even considering the transportation, refining, and marketing costs.

In some months in '08, they are making less of a margin on a gallon of gas for refining than when gas was much cheaper...

the big brands are vertically integrated which is a huge aid and they have a product in demand because of our zealous love for burning gas.

once again, Americans love to point blame to other people, instead of realizing much of the fault is in their own decisions

[T Verdier]

I am not a fan of Walmart and my feeling was solidified last Wednesday when I went to Costco for gas.

I had gone to Sams the day before (I have been filling up when I can daily because it feels better getting 1/4 tank) and it has been going up 2-4 cents a day here.

Tuesday I went to Sams, got premium at 4.27(grrrr) but felt like it was too high as the regular stations were the same, so Wednesday I went to Costco & paid 4.22!

Just to be sure after Costco I went to Sams to see if the price had changed and it was 4.28!

WTF?

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The funny part about my company costco is that the gas station does not make a profit when gas is as high as it is now. In fact we lost $75,000 last year at my branch alone. You may ask why we continue to provide gas at such a low price, Its simple come to get gas and eat a hot dog, you may as well pick up some toilet paper and milk, oh and we need this and that. $200 later that loss of profit on gas isnt so bad.

Costco is a great company who treats their employees well. I would go there as much as i could and screw walmart.

[Coco Savage]

What channel?

+1

[parkerbink]

I agree with you Robert, big oil is not getting the bulk of the windfall and I am not blaming them. I just think the problem is very dangerous because transportation has an effect on all aspects of our economy.

There are many facets to this not the least of which is the value of the dollar. A year ago, I could send 1000 pesos to Mexico for 92-95. Last week I had to send 152.48 to send 1500 pesos.

[T Verdier]

"their are things we aren't told and if we do not demand an answer we will never be told the truth"

[DSP74]

Speaking of wrecking the economy. How about all the fucking american dollars payed OUT to people sending that money into mexicos economy.

DIE

[rwh11385]

I agree with you Robert, big oil is not getting the bulk of the windfall and I am not blaming them. I just think the problem is very dangerous because transportation has an affect on all aspects of our economy.

There arm many facets to this not the least of which is the value of the dollar. A year ago, I could send 1000 pesos to Mexico for 92-95. Last week I had to send 152.48 to send 1500 pesos.

Gas for cars, fuel for planes, diesel for supply chain semis, affect on food prices, and how much $$ we're sending out of the country...
it's scary.

In the rise of globalization and how fun people were having outsourcing jobs and saving $ it seemed great and awesome, and now has come back to bite us in the ass.

It's not all bad. We just to have to look how to make money off them since they have disposable income now: Coke machines, cars, whatever... I am on a project coming up working with a client on a market research affair in India so I'm making $ from an opportunity that didn't previously existed. Outsourcing doesn't necessarily eliminate jobs.

And a devalued dollar helps with exporting goods... but I'd rather not be at 1.60: Euro, and once again oil costs murders our trade balance. And again, so does Walmart and other imports we have from China.

[2Big4a3Series]

I seriously dont understand why people blow a gasket about 4 cents. On a bone dry tank its an extra 64 cents.

I'm with you on that Twisty. It blows my mind how some of my friends will pull into a gas station and then drive right out spending extra time and effort to U-Turn their way around to the other side of a busy intersection when they see the competitor with a price that is 2 to 3 cents cheaper.

I like to catch the gas station on their 5-cent discount day but that's only an 80 cent difference on a 16 gallon fillup. That made a big difference when gas was around $1 a gallon but it's barely noticeable at today's prices.

[DSP74]

I'm with you on that Twisty. It blows my mind how some of my friends will pull into a gas station and then drive right out spending extra time and effort to U-Turn their way around to the other side of a busy intersection when they see the competitor with a price that is 2 to 3 cents cheaper.

I like to catch the gas station on their 5-cent discount day but that's only an 80 cent difference on a 16 gallon fillup. That made a big difference when gas was around $1 a gallon but it's barely noticeable at today's prices.

How much was gas two years ago. Regular here is 4.15. THAT IS WHY SOME PEOPLE BLOW A FUCKING GASKET

[parkerbink]

Speaking of wrecking the economy. How about all the fucking american dollars payed OUT to people sending that money into mexicos economy.

DIE

My Wife and kids are where I want to be at "home" in Mexico. I earn my money and send what I want to my family.

What business of yours is it what I do with my money?

You should be concerned about the LOANS our government has taken, in the trillions from China & Japan to fund the Iraqi adventure.

[rwh11385]

How much was gas two years ago. Regular here is 4.15. THAT IS WHY SOME PEOPLE BLOW A FUCKING GASKET

The price of crude oil has nearly doubled in two years

http://www.inflationdata.com/inflation/Inflation_Rate/Historical_Oil_Prices_Table.asp

Who are you angry at? It shouldn't be the oil companies. It should be those with Hummers, the government which allowed $1.90 gas to exist for years and spoil us, the people who bought Walmart products from China like crazy and forced many of our imports come from there so they can buy cars and increase the demand on oil...

[DSP74]

Yeah because lord knows oil companies who control opec would never hold back supply to increase demand to drive prices higher......


I simply won't participate any more. Fuck this thread

[parkerbink]

I believe the blame primarily rests with the decrease in value of the dollar which is in large part due to decisions made by the current administration & the unregulated speculation of crude.

As proof I refer you to the fact that even though demand is down and production is up the price continues to rise.

There is blame that belongs to big oil as there has not been a new refinery built in many many years.