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  • B2702
    Wrencher
    • Jun 2008
    • 293

    #1

    What makes a 325e so shit and slow?

    I'm thinking of buying one, 325e manaual. What actually makes them so slow? and rev out to 5000rpm only?

    Thanks
  • Danny
    Moderator
    • Feb 2008
    • 14216

    #2
    Ask your Dad.

    He'll know for sure.

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    • RickSloan
      R3VLimited
      • Feb 2008
      • 2401

      #3
      they are not slow! geo metros are slow, ETA's are fast enough, torque happy, and a hell of alot of fun to drive! Everyone hates on the ETA, its a good strong motor, and honestly the M20B25 isn't that much quicker

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      • Maluco
        R3V OG
        • Oct 2005
        • 6572

        #4
        ^ says the owner of an eta, lol....

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        • Raxe
          R3V Elite
          • Nov 2006
          • 5346

          #5
          I prefer it to my old 325is by far... 170lb/ft of torque at 3000rpm is pretty fun for daily driving. But it's a super ETA so it might be different.

          >> 1988 3.1 ITB E30 /// 2002 E46 M3 6MT / 2008 335xi 6MT / 1991 S38B36 E30 (sold)

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          • ebelements
            PBMW Feature Car
            • Oct 2005
            • 403

            #6
            I loved my ETA. Torquey and a blast as a daily around town. Killer MPGs too. Kind of a piglet on the freeway tho, but you'll have that.

            After driving a 325i I didn't feel so bad though, not as huge a difference as I thought.
            . . .
            Erik

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            • ethree
              E30 Fanatic
              • Aug 2007
              • 1213

              #7
              The head, it doesn't flow well.

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              • Danny
                Moderator
                • Feb 2008
                • 14216

                #8
                Originally posted by ethree
                The head, it doesn't flow well.
                Shitsweak.

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                • LosBemmer
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 65

                  #9
                  Originally posted by b2702
                  i'm thinking of buying one, 325e manaual. What actually makes them so slow? And rev out to 5000rpm only?

                  Thanks
                  the driver!!!!! Lol:)

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                  • B2702
                    Wrencher
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 293

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Danny
                    Ask your Dad.

                    He'll know for sure.
                    Meh..loser...
                    i've driven the 325i and i've noticed that the 323i is quicker, 325i's are really slugish compared to the 323i imo, if i was to make the 325e a 2.7 do i just throw on a 323i head or 325i head? do i have to change the harness?

                    Cheers

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                    • JasonC
                      Site Manager
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 14451

                      #11
                      Originally posted by B2702
                      Meh..loser...
                      i've driven the 325i and i've noticed that the 323i is quicker, 325i's are really slugish compared to the 323i imo, if i was to make the 325e a 2.7 do i just throw on a 323i head or 325i head? do i have to change the harness?

                      Cheers
                      The 325e is already a 2.7. But to keep the comp. ratio, Use the 323i head (731) and the "i" wiring harness. With the "i" (885) head it drops it down to 8:1 or somewhere along those lines.

                      I hate to tell you to search. But search in the M20 section for head swap or budget stroker. I remember someone doing the i head swap and putting it on a dyno.

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                      • SpartanTiger81
                        E30 Addict
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 555

                        #12
                        Yep, you'll need an I head, manifold, harness, ecu, and injector + rail...


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                        • jbombdizzle
                          Advanced Member
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 138

                          #13
                          Ive heard it takes an eta motor you put an "i" crank with "i" rods on the eta pistons and motor with an "i" head

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                          • rThor432
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 3907

                            #14
                            Originally posted by B2702
                            325i's are really slugish compared to the 323i imo, if i was to make the 325e a 2.7 do i just throw on a 323i head or 325i head? do i have to change the harness?
                            Well, that's Motronic for you. L-jet is much more responsive. But 323i's usually weigh a good bit less than 325i's. Early vs late production.

                            I wouldnt throw the head, but yes either of those will work. Remember the 731 head isnt going to flow like the 885, because it has small ports (exhaust is the same as the eta; intake is slightly larger). The 731 will be much torquier than the 885 though.

                            Get rid of the eta's engine harness. Whether you choose the L-jet or "i" Motronic system, either will be required to get the eta revving (properly).

                            The head design doesnt keep the car from revving past 5k or so, it's the electronics.

                            The eta motor is great. Torque isnt a bad thing and neither is efficiency. I like my eta. It's faster and more efficient than my M42 even.

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                            • Nicademus
                              R3VLimited
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 2912

                              #15
                              I have a 325e and I still think its a lot of fun....I mean it better be fun? It the only reason why I own the thing :nice:

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