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    and it looks decent..



    The 65 mpg Ford the U.S. Can't Have

    Ford's Fiesta ECOnetic gets an astonishing 65 mpg, but the carmaker can't afford to sell it in the U.S.

    by David Kiley
    If ever there was a car made for the times, this would seem to be it: a sporty subcompact that seats five, offers a navigation system, and gets a whopping 65 miles to the gallon. Oh yes, and the car is made by Ford Motor (F), known widely for lumbering gas hogs.
    Ford's 2009 Fiesta ECOnetic goes on sale in November. But here's the catch: Despite the car's potential to transform Ford's image and help it compete with Toyota Motor (TM) and Honda Motor (HMC) in its home market, the company will sell the little fuel sipper only in Europe. "We know it's an awesome vehicle," says Ford America President Mark Fields. "But there are business reasons why we can't sell it in the U.S." The main one: The Fiesta ECOnetic runs on diesel.
    Automakers such as Volkswagen (VLKAY) and Mercedes-Benz (DAI) have predicted for years that a technology called "clean diesel" would overcome many Americans' antipathy to a fuel still often thought of as the smelly stuff that powers tractor trailers. Diesel vehicles now hitting the market with pollution-fighting technology are as clean or cleaner than gasoline and at least 30% more fuel-efficient.
    Yet while half of all cars sold in Europe last year ran on diesel, the U.S. market remains relatively unfriendly to the fuel. Taxes aimed at commercial trucks mean diesel costs anywhere from 40 cents to $1 more per gallon than gasoline. Add to this the success of the Toyota Prius, and you can see why only 3% of cars in the U.S. use diesel. "Americans see hybrids as the darling," says Global Insight auto analyst Philip Gott, "and diesel as old-tech."
    None of this is stopping European and Japanese automakers, which are betting they can jump-start the U.S. market with new diesel models. Mercedes-Benz by next year will have three cars it markets as "BlueTec." Even Nissan (NSANY) and Honda, which long opposed building diesel cars in Europe, plan to introduce them in the U.S. in 2010. But Ford, whose Fiesta ECOnetic compares favorably with European diesels, can't make a business case for bringing the car to the U.S.
    TOO PRICEY TO IMPORT

    First of all, the engines are built in Britain, so labor costs are high. Plus the pound remains stronger than the greenback. At prevailing exchange rates, the Fiesta ECOnetic would sell for about $25,700 in the U.S. By contrast, the Prius typically goes for about $24,000. A $1,300 tax deduction available to buyers of new diesel cars could bring the price of the Fiesta to around $24,400. But Ford doesn't believe it could charge enough to make money on an imported ECOnetic.
    Ford plans to make a gas-powered version of the Fiesta in Mexico for the U.S. So why not manufacture diesel engines there, too? Building a plant would cost at least $350 million at a time when Ford has been burning through more than $1 billion a month in cash reserves. Besides, the automaker would have to produce at least 350,000 engines a year to make such a venture profitable. "We just don't think North and South America would buy that many diesel cars," says Fields.
    The question, of course, is whether the U.S. ever will embrace diesel fuel and allow automakers to achieve sufficient scale to make money on such vehicles. California certified VW and Mercedes diesel cars earlier this year, after a four-year ban. James N. Hall, of auto researcher 293 Analysts, says that bellwether state and the Northeast remain "hostile to diesel." But the risk to Ford is that the fuel takes off, and the carmaker finds itself playing catch-up—despite having a serious diesel contender in its arsenal.
    Kiley is a senior correspondent in BusinessWeek's Detroit bureau.

    Brasil is full of little badass Ford's. I'd actually rock a few of them... They're defintely not Ford's as we know them here.






    #2
    And this is why ford is going down the drain.
    Byron
    Leichtbau

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      #3
      If for no other reason that to spit in the face of Pious drivers i wish they'd send it over here. The smug is getting downright unbearable.

      On more serious note, hopefully once the other automakers start producing more diesel powered cars over here, FoMoCo will wise up and follow suit--that is if people actually buy these diesels once they're in the market here. I mean, if someone is willing to drive around in a Toyota Yaris or Nissan Versa for gas mileage, i can't imagine they'd have a problem with this Ford that blows their current fuel economy out of the water--and actually looks kind of cool.

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        #4
        its sad when a US company makes better cars outside of the US...

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          #5
          what the hell?

          you can get diesel anywhere there are truck routes. they can build the fucking things here just as easily as they can build them there - nobody really cares if it's a ford, the people who buy a 65mpg car are buying it almost for that reason alone.

          ford = retarded
          Build thread

          Bimmerlabs

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            #6
            Originally posted by nando View Post
            what the hell?

            Ford = retarded
            fixed.
            IG: @Baye30

            FRONT VALENCE IS ZENDER!!! STOP FILLING MY PM BOX PPL!!!

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              #7
              Originally posted by nando View Post
              what the hell?

              you can get diesel anywhere there are truck routes. they can build the fucking things here just as easily as they can build them there - nobody really cares if it's a ford, the people who buy a 65mpg car are buying it almost for that reason alone.

              ford = retarded
              totally true..since they would be building a plant to make the gas engines anywho

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                #8
                Gm said they're going to spend 1/2 a billion dollars developing a small car for the US, have you seen the opel/vauxhall lineup lately? They've been developed, they're nice, stylish, "sporty" all GM has to do is bring them here. WTF?

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                  #9
                  Take a look at these:
                  Be prepared for the ride of your life with the most powerful cars Vauxhall has ever produced. Turn the key, press the pedal and immediately feel your adrenaline surge forward with the car.

                  the corsa is small but pretty badass for a front driver IMHO.

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                    #10
                    Ok - so Ford claims the economies of the British built diesel doesn't make it a fiscally wise thing to send those cars here. So why doesn't Ford take a lesson from Dodge where they have diesels supplied from someone else for their trucks? Ya know....the Cummins diesel used in the Ram? If there is a US-based engine supplier who can create a compact, clean diesel which Ford can utilize for a few models, couldn't something like this work? Other manufacturers have done similar approaches - whether its just drivetrains or entire platforms.

                    Just a thought to ponder.
                    Rides...
                    1991 325i - sold :(
                    2004 2WD Frontier King Cab

                    RIP #17 Jules Bianchi

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Coco Savage View Post
                      its sad when a US company makes better cars outside of the US...
                      yes it is!

                      in Europe, the have a diesel, six-speed Ford something, pretty much a Taurus that gets 35mpg and drives better.

                      I think they're just scared it wouldn't sell
                      1989 cirrisblau-metallic 325i

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by ethree View Post
                        Take a look at these:
                        Be prepared for the ride of your life with the most powerful cars Vauxhall has ever produced. Turn the key, press the pedal and immediately feel your adrenaline surge forward with the car.

                        the corsa is small but pretty badass for a front driver IMHO.
                        all of those are in Brasil; the Corsa, Vectra and Astra have long since been there.

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                          #13
                          Are they sold as chevys, opels or vauxhalls?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Maluco View Post
                            all of those are in Brasil; the Corsa, Vectra and Astra have long since been there.
                            You can buy an Astra here. Go down to your local Saturn dealership. They are imaginatively enough called Saturn Astras.
                            Matt

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ethree View Post
                              Are they sold as chevys, opels or vauxhalls?
                              In Brasil they are sold as Chevys.

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