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**chameleonleather** · 12-31-2008, 07:48 AM

Get some good walking shoes and a bus ticket. Then you can just leave the car at home lol.

**brandondan1** · 12-31-2008, 07:52 AM

Originally posted by TDE30

One flaw in that theory...

BTW, with thieves, the zipties can either being a complete deterrent, or slow them down enough for them to get caught. What could've been a 10 second ordeal by simply taking the lip off by hand (those handy OEM clips), is now lengthened by the crook trying to find out why it won't come off. If it's at night, good luck seeing tiny black zipties, or if you're like fidhle and have a slammed car, that the robber can't fit his head under, good luck squeezing your arm under and blindly trying to cut whatevers holding the lip, with scissors.

Again, it may not be 100%, but neither are door locks. If someone wants to break into your house they can kick the door in. Does that mean it's pointless to lock it?

/bored on new years eve.

**PhillyG** · 12-31-2008, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by brandondan1

BTW, with thieves, the zipties can either being a complete deterrent, or slow them down enough for them to get caught. What could've been a 10 second ordeal by simply taking the lip off by hand (those handy OEM clips), is now lengthened by the crook trying to find out why it won't come off. If it's at night, good luck seeing tiny black zipties, or if you're like fidhle and have a slammed car, that the robber can't fit his head under, good luck squeezing your arm under and blindly trying to cut whatevers holding the lip, with scissors.

Again, it may not be 100%, but neither are door locks. If someone wants to break into your house they can kick the door in. Does that mean it's pointless to lock it?

/bored on new years eve.

Shit I can't believe some of you have to worry about parts being stolen from your car. Around here people wouldn't even know you could detach the lip, or even yet know its worth a damn thing. Shit 95% of the people around here don't even know its a bmw, meerly a 80's corolla.

**brandondan1** · 12-31-2008, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by Asbradley21

Oh, anyone know what kind of paint I can get off the shelf at an autozone or wherever that'll be similar to the finish of the bumper trim? (SEM isn't sold anywhere around here)

Duplicolor sells a can labeled as "OEM Trim Paint" that you can find at Autozone. If you use their regular flat black paint, it's not going to match the other trim pieces on you car under certain lighting conditions(but its "similar"). I actually used a semi gloss paint on my car, and love the way it turned out (did all of my grills, side mouldings). Looks better than my brand new euro trim IMO(which I'll be doing the same thing to in the future).

**brandondan1** · 12-31-2008, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by PhillyG

Shit I can't believe some of you have to worry about parts being stolen from your car. Around here people wouldn't even know you could detach the lip, or even yet know its worth a damn thing. Shit 95% of the people around here don't even know its a bmw, meerly a 80's corolla.

True, I wouldn't necessarily lose sleep about it, where I live, but I'm also not the one who brought it up. I was just defending that viewpoint. If you search, you'll see that there have been victims on the forum who have had parts stolen, though. (like by some jackass who was trying to pop hoods open at an e30 meet). Like they say, "You never think it's gonna happen to you"

To me, the minor theft deterrence factor is just a secondary plus.

**Fidhle007** · 12-31-2008, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by brandondan1

Well it's nice to know they have perfect roads in NH. However, that isn't the case here in TX (or where the OP lives). Believe it or not, some of us need to drive through parking lots too.

To say that a lip falling off and being ran over countless times by cars (and 18 wheelers) behind you, is better than it being sanded gently by the road until you can pull over and reattach it is pretty insane to me.

Originally posted by brandondan1

Yeah, but if he want to be slammed like the r3v kool kidz then his lip isn't gonna last very long, depending on how crappy the roads are (again, read my point about all the lipless e30s out there). BTW I have brand new clips on my car, and never complained about them being expensive(and didn't stop me from using additional ties). I guess having a high "r3ved lip" count is cooler than doing something extra to try and protect the one you already have...

Try again. Or not... I've had experience where they've worked, and that's all that really matters to me :).

Originally posted by brandondan1

BTW, with thieves, the zipties can either being a complete deterrent, or slow them down enough for them to get caught. What could've been a 10 second ordeal by simply taking the lip off by hand (those handy OEM clips), is now lengthened by the crook trying to find out why it won't come off. If it's at night, good luck seeing tiny black zipties, or if you're like fidhle and have a slammed car, that the robber can't fit his head under, good luck squeezing your arm under and blindly trying to cut whatevers holding the lip, with scissors.

Again, it may not be 100%, but neither are door locks. If someone wants to break into your house they can kick the door in. Does that mean it's pointless to lock it?

/bored on new years eve.

Originally posted by brandondan1

Duplicolor sells a can labeled as "OEM Trim Paint" that you can find at Autozone. If you use their regular flat black paint, it's not going to match the other trim pieces on you car under certain lighting conditions(but its "similar"). I actually used a semi gloss paint on my car, and love the way it turned out (did all of my grills, side mouldings). Looks better than my brand new euro trim IMO(which I'll be doing the same thing to in the future).

Originally posted by brandondan1

True, I wouldn't necessarily lose sleep about it, where I live, but I'm also not the one who brought it up. I was just defending that viewpoint. If you search, you'll see that there have been victims on the forum who have had parts stolen, though. (like by some jackass who was trying to pop hoods open at an e30 meet). Like they say, "You never think it's gonna happen to you"

To me, the minor theft deterrence factor is just a secondary plus.

Guy, there's a multi-quote feature that's really useful here. Unless you're just trying to artificially inflate your post count...

Roads in NH suck. Have you seen any of my pictures? We don't even have pavement here. A dragging lip will only be "lightly sanded" at 5mph. It's a 1/16" piece of soft plastic, most average road surfaces will tear completely through that faster than 99% of E30s can come to complete stop from just about any speed. Based on that fact I'm assuming you spend all of your time in parking lots and that's why the zip tie method has worked for you. Any road you're driving on that's rough enough to dislodge your lip probably won't have 18-wheelers on it, or much traffic at all so unless you have a ghey splitter and are traveling at highly unsafe speeds (in traffic no less) your argument makes no sense.

I don't worry about theft because to remove my lip you'd need a lift and four wrenches.

**brandondan1** · 12-31-2008, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by Fidhle007

Guy, there's a multi-quote feature that's really useful here. Unless you're just trying to artificially inflate your post count...

Roads in NH suck. Have you seen any of my pictures? We don't even have pavement here. A dragging lip will only be "lightly sanded" at 5mph. It's a 1/16" piece of soft plastic, most average road surfaces will tear completely through that faster than 99% of E30s can come to complete stop from just about any speed. Based on that fact I'm assuming you spend all of your time in parking lots and that's why the zip tie method has worked for you. Any road you're driving on that's rough enough to dislodge your lip probably won't have 18-wheelers on it, or much traffic at all so unless you have a ghey splitter and are traveling at highly unsafe speeds (in traffic no less) your argument makes no sense.

I don't worry about theft because to remove my lip you'd need a lift and four wrenches.

Yeah, a lip that is dragging by its own weight because it fell off of the weak clips would suffer more than one that is being held by zipties that would maybe scuff some paint... And yes, big trucks are more adapted to the types of rough roads that beat up lips(moreso than lowered e30s), so it wouldn't be "rare" to have one driving behind you (not that running over the lip yourself isn't bad enough...).

And when did the debate become limited to "high speed" driving? The OP is looking for anything to help his lip, under everyday driving (which includes steep parking lots, driving 15mph in areas with huge dips). Not someone telling him "brand new stock clips are the best thing," when he has already tried that, and it's not working for him.

You could say these situations are strictly hypothetical, but just about every e30 FS in the area over the past 2 years has had a missing lip. Now whether it gets stolen or knocked off at some point is for you to decide. But one thing that it proves for sure is that a little reinforcement won't hurt(and that same reinforcement has saved my lip before). Therefore, I fail to see the sense in your argument.

**Danny** · 12-31-2008, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by Fidhle007

Unless you're just trying to artificially inflate your post count...

Hey what's up.

**Asbradley21** · 12-31-2008, 11:32 AM

I do have to agree, I'd rather have a ground and scuffed-up lip than a run-over-trashed-ripped-into-a-billion-smashed-pieces lip.

**joehasane30** · 12-31-2008, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by Danny

Hey what's up.

hi

**318isbmw** · 12-31-2008, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by brandondan1

And when did the debate become limited to "high speed" driving? The OP is looking for anything to help his lip, under everyday driving (which includes steep parking lots, driving 15mph in areas with huge dips). Not someone telling him "brand new stock clips are the best thing," when he has already tried that, and it's not working for him.

I've never had an issue with hurting the IS lip on spokane roads, which one of the ruts by my house is high enough in the center that my exhaust drags if I go down the center of the lane. Never screwed my lip up, with or without a splitter on it. If he's having issues, may want to look at his driving style, like we addressed earlier in the thread rather than making it so the lip can't come off.

**Asbradley21** · 12-31-2008, 07:15 PM

Really, its not a matter of roads, its a matter of parking lots, drive ways, and entrances to places.

**Philo** · 12-31-2008, 08:03 PM

EDIT ^

"It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut."

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**Danny** · 12-31-2008, 08:07 PM

^LOL good one.

**318isbmw** · 01-01-2009, 01:56 AM

Originally posted by Asbradley21

Really, its not a matter of roads, its a matter of parking lots, drive ways, and entrances to places.

Take them sideways, its not that hard, honestly. My point was the roads are like crap, getting off of them isn't any easier. Take them as sideways as possible, and plan routes, its seriously amazing how quickly your mind just adjusts to it and does it subconsciously. Your arms will get a workout, but you get used to it. Even my gf does it when she's riding in my car, comments on taking stuff at an angle in parking lots at night, and when visibility is low. I've broken a rieger lip getting off of a road, sucks to learn that way, but hey, I've never forgotten to go at an angle since then, so not criticizing, just advice.

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