The Official F1 2009 Thread

[quickervicar]

No. My understanding is that Renault is completely off the hook (save for the probation & $1.6m in legal fees) and that Pat Symonds is banned for a couple of years. Flavio is to have no part in any form of FIA-sanctioned events. Ever. Not even as a spectator. Not only that, but he cannot represent any FIA-licensed drivers as a manager since they will not renew the FIA Superlicense to any driver represented by him. His role as football club owner is under review as well (if you fixed one sporting event, why wouldn't you fix another?)

They've effectively castrated him. Heidi Klum is secretly pleased.

[YAN-3]

Sorry, YAN, missed your post.

I don't see any reason to appeal a non-punishment.

maybe im just not up to par with the judicial terms and crap. i thought they were not gonna be able to take part in 10,11, and that Flavio might have a fighting chance to come back.

[quickervicar]

Sorry, YAN, missed your post.

I don't see any reason to appeal a non-punishment.

[quickervicar]

Yes. PROBATION. The ruling is that they get no punishment unless they are found guilty of another incident of this magnitude over the probation period. IF they are found guilty of such an occurrence, then they would be banned for 5 years.

This might seem crazy, but I wouldn't be too surprised if the Singapore police blocked Renault's transporters from entering the paddock tomorrow. I believe the govt. is still considering prosecution for endangering the lives of citizens.

[YAN-3]

Renault are on probation for 2 years.

Probation is a sentence which may be imposed by a court in lieu of incarceration. A criminal who is "on probation" has been convicted of a crime but has served only part of the sentence in jail, or has not served time at all.


so going back to my question.... can Renault apply for some sort of appeal?

[tg318is]

Renault are on probation for 2 years.

[YAN-3]

I don't see Renault coming back in 2012, just my own personal opinion.

So, pardon the seemingly obvious question, is Renault allowed to run the rest of this season, or are they out completely until 2012?

and to add to this question, they are 100% out for 2010 & 2011 ???

no appeals or anything right? can they somehow appeal the ruling? like wise about Flavio

[TDE30]

I don't see Renault coming back in 2012, just my own personal opinion.

So, pardon the seemingly obvious question, is Renault allowed to run the rest of this season, or are they out completely until 2012?

[naplesE30]

Hobbs is great.

Good article in the wal street journal about the weak ass Renault penalty, front page of the marketplace section. ING is departing from F1 at the end of this year and Renault is still looking for a sponsor.

[Jon325i]

I love watching BBCi feeds, sooooo much better than Speed.

Tell me how David Coulthard can be funnier than David Hobbs :p

Best Hobbs-ism:

"now that pass took some serious attachments"

Or Bob Varsha's quip at Hobbs during a broadcast:

"The race, much like David Hobbs on a Saturday night, is subject to blackout"


Jon

[hugh jass]

I love watching BBCi feeds, sooooo much better than Speed.

no shit, eddie and david are a hoot

[Jean]

I love watching BBCi feeds, sooooo much better than Speed.

[quickervicar]

I deeply miss Eddie Jordan's presence in the paddock. USGP was never the same without the possibility of meeting the Jordan girls.

[YAN-3]

yea thats what I got from reading on Formula1.com

guys if I was counting down the time to the 1st practice, now im counting down to the seconds. I cant wait to see and hear the response from other drivers and this man... you know he always has something nice to say

[Jon325i]

wish i had seen this earlier.



ok so now to the real issue at hand. What does that say about Alonso? i mean surely is other members of Renault knew about it, Alonso must of know something!

Alonso was at the FIA hearing this morning (per the FIAs request) and his testimony (along with the evidence provided by Renault's internal investigation) satisfied the hearing panel to deem him clear of any knowledge or wrong-doing in this event. Whether he actually did or did not have any involvement is something that is likely to be taken to the grave....but as far as the official word from the FIA goes, Alonso is innocent. Very fortunate for him.