wish i had seen this earlier.
ok so now to the real issue at hand. What does that say about Alonso? i mean surely is other members of Renault knew about it, Alonso must of know something!
The Official F1 2009 Thread
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I hope BMW goes out strong in these next few races with their new aero package, not likely though as they are on their 8th engine with 4 races to goLeave a comment:
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I am guessing Mark Webber will have to get a new manager since the FIA won't grant licenses to anyone associated with Flavio. One of the many side effects to this situation.Leave a comment:
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No Mclaren LIED and continued to lie to the FIA during the investigation. Renault came clean, and offered to the FIA the firing of the two key players in the scandal. It seems as if Renault F1 was unaware of the commands, and that only the 3 persons named knew of the plot. To fine Renault would be blaming the wrong party.Leave a comment:
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This'll give Flav more time to work with the students of his School of Language.

"Uhh- hey what is do a we wrong uhh- why about are a we uhh- ohhh, okay uhh- we see come you later. Uhh good ciao."
On a serious note and getting back to the issue at hand, does this not seem completely inconsistent with the WMSC's ruling of the McMerc espionage scandal, requiring them to pay $100M???Leave a comment:
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So, in a nutshell:
-Renault is on probation until 2011
-Flavio is banned for life
-Symonds is banned for 5 years
-PK2 & Alonso are freeLeave a comment:
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Wow, Renault got away with one there. I thought the FIA would be harder on them, Im sure they were afaid they would leave the sport if they came down to hard. Cant believe they were not fined. Adios FlavioLeave a comment:
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That link was really slow to open for me (perhaps everyone worldwide into F1 trying to access it). Below is a cut-n-paste of the text....
Press Release
World Motor Sport Council
21/09/2009
At an extraordinary meeting of the World Motor Sport Council held in Paris on 21 September 2009, the ING Renault F1 team (“Renault F1”) admitted that the team had conspired with its driver Nelson Piquet Jr. to cause a deliberate crash at the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix, in breach of the International Sporting Code and F1 Sporting Regulations.
Renault F1 stated at the meeting that it had conducted a detailed internal investigation, which found that: (i) Flavio Briatore, Pat Symonds and Nelson Piquet Jr. had conspired to cause the crash; and (ii) no other team member was involved in the conspiracy.
The FIA has conducted its own detailed investigation and its findings correspond with those of Renault F1.
At the meeting of the World Motor Sport Council, Renault F1 made the following points in mitigation:
- it had accepted, at the earliest practicable opportunity, that it committed the offences with which it was charged and cooperated fully with the FIA’s investigation;
- it had confirmed that Mr. Briatore and Mr. Symonds were involved in the conspiracy and ensured that they left the team;
- it apologised unreservedly to the FIA and to the sport for the harm caused by its actions;
- it committed to paying the costs incurred by the FIA in its investigation; and
- Renault (the parent company, as opposed to Renault F1) committed to making a significant contribution to FIA safety-related projects.
Nelson Piquet Jr. also apologised unreservedly to the World Motor Sport Council for his part in the conspiracy.
The following decision was taken:
The World Motor Sport Council finds that Renault F1 team members Flavio Briatore, Pat Symonds and Nelson Piquet Jr. conspired to cause a deliberate crash at the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix. The World Motor Sport Council therefore finds Renault F1, which, under article 123 of the International Sporting Code, is responsible for the actions of its employees, in breach of Articles 151(c) and point 2(c) of Chapter IV of Appendix L of the Code, and Articles 3.2, 30.3 and/or 39.1 of the Formula One Sporting Regulations.
The World Motor Sport Council considers Renault F1’s breaches relating to the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix to be of unparalleled severity. Renault F1’s breaches not only compromised the integrity of the sport but also endangered the lives of spectators, officials, other competitors and Nelson Piquet Jr. himself. The World Motor Sport Council considers that offences of this severity merit permanent disqualification from the FIA Formula One World Championship. However, having regard to the points in mitigation mentioned above and in particular the steps taken by Renault F1 to identify and address the failings within its team and condemn the actions of the individuals involved, the WMSC has decided to suspend Renault F1’s disqualification until the end of the 2011 season. The World Motor Sport Council will only activate this disqualification if Renault F1 is found guilty of a comparable breach during that time.
In addition the World Motor Sport Council notes Renault F1’s apology and agrees that the team should pay the costs of the investigation. It also accepts the offer of a significant contribution to the FIA’s safety work.
As regards Mr. Briatore, the World Motor Sport Council declares that, for an unlimited period, the FIA does not intend to sanction any International Event, Championship, Cup, Trophy, Challenge or Series involving Mr. Briatore in any capacity whatsoever, or grant any license to any Team or other entity engaging Mr. Briatore in any capacity whatsoever. It also hereby instructs all officials present at FIA-sanctioned events not to permit Mr. Briatore access to any areas under the FIA’s jurisdiction. Furthermore, it does not intend to renew any Superlicence granted to any driver who is associated (through a management contract or otherwise) with Mr. Briatore, or any entity or individual associated with Mr. Briatore. In determining that such instructions should be applicable for an unlimited period, the World Motor Sport Council has had regard not only to the severity of the breach in which Mr. Briatore was complicit but also to his actions in continuing to deny his participation in the breach despite all the evidence.
As regards Mr. Symonds, the World Motor Sport Council declares that, for a period of five years, the FIA does not intend to sanction any International Event, Championship, Cup, Trophy, Challenge or Series involving Mr. Symonds in any capacity whatsoever, or grant any license to any Team or other entity engaging Mr. Symonds in any capacity whatsoever. It hereby instructs, for a period of five years, all officials present at FIA-sanctioned events not to permit Mr. Symonds access to any areas under the FIA’s jurisdiction. In determining that such instructions should be effective for a period of five years the World Motor Sport Council has had regard: (i) to Mr. Symonds’ acceptance that he took part in the conspiracy; and (ii) to his communication to the meeting of the World Motor Sport Council that it was to his “eternal regret and shame” that he participated in the conspiracy.
As regards Mr. Piquet Jr., the World Motor Sport Council confirms the immunity from individual sanctions under the International Sporting Code in relation to this incident, which the FIA had granted to him in exchange for volunteering his evidence.
As regards Fernando Alonso, the World Motor Sport Council thanks him for cooperating with the FIA’s enquiries and for attending the meeting, and concludes that Mr. Alonso was not in any way involved in Renault F1’s breach of the regulations.
The World Motor Sport Council would like to thank the Stewards and legal investigation team (in particular Dorothy Cory-Wright of Sidley Austin LLP who conducted the interviews at the Belgian Grand Prix).
The full reasons for this decision, in addition to a complete recording of the proceedings before the World Motor Sport Council, will be made available shortly.
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Oh wow this can get interesting.... Lewis sure won't like playing #2 lol.Leave a comment:
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Here's what I found:
The latest paddock whispers surrounding next year’s driver line-up place Kimi Raikkonen back at McLaren alongside Lewis Hamilton, while Mercedes’ newfound interest with Brawn GP could see the hitherto McLaren-linked Nico Rosberg make the switch to the Brackley team. According to the Daily Mirror, Raikkonen, who raced with McLaren between 2002 and 2006, has signed […]
Former Formula 1 World Champion Kimi Raikkonen 'has signed an outline agreement' to return to McLaren-Mercedes in 2010, sources have revealed - in a move that would free up a place at Ferrari for Fernando Alonso, and likely see Nico Rosberg jump ship from Williams to current world championship leaders Brawn GP.
Basically, in a nutshell, there's an 'outlined agreement' on the table. The sticking point is will Ferrari pay out the remaining term of Kimi's contract. He still has one year left guaranteed with the Scuderia....but if they release him to make room for Alonso, they still have to pay him for that year even if he isn't driving for them. Should this deal with McLaren go through, Kimi will be rollin' in da dough for 2010. Think: two salaries, one job.
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