Camshaft issue! help!

[Spinning Tires]

were you driving with no oil when you got the hole in the pan?

[grantlacey11]

were you driving with no oil when you got the hole in the pan?

no there was the normal amount of oil in it when i banged a hole in it. i realized there was no oil then mext day when i started driving down the hill and my oil light popped on. turned right around back home and turned her off till i got the pan welded.

any advice on what my options are? ( look at my last posts)

[E30FreaK89]

Have you been driving it really hard lately (high rpm's)??

[grantlacey11]

Have you been driving it really hard lately (high rpm's)??

mmmm no drifting per say,,, i drive my car kinda hard...nothing too crazy though...why do you ask?

i do have a mark D chip in there and redline is at 7100 now...

[E30FreaK89]

have you been pushing pushing it to 7100 alot and for a long period of time?
i only ask because if the head wasnt getting oil up to the bearing and it spun then it would be messed up and get worse from that point on. And an M42 has cam carriers you can try replacing along with that cam and see what happens.


Gary

[grantlacey11]

have you been pushing pushing it to 7100 alot and for a long period of time?
i only ask because if the head wasnt getting oil up to the bearing and it spun then it would be messed up and get worse from that point on. And an M42 has cam carriers you can try replacing along with that cam and see what happens.


Gary

no nothing that gnarly. no long periods of time either. i think ill try the carrier and the cam...does anyone have these?!?

[bmwpower]

I would still pull that bottom oil pan and check for metal chunks. This is very typical of M42s. The metal chunks could also be from the chain or guides deteriorating. They could be blocking the oil pump pickup.

I think it's more likely that you killed it from no oil pressure. You said you saw the light and you turned around and went home. It only takes a little bit of no oil pressure to foul things up.

[nando]

Too bad BMW heads dont have cam bearings. You can get the head fixed but im sure a used one is way cheaper. Theres only 2 things i can think of that caused this. No oil pressure in the motor. Or a clogged port to the front journal. The fronts always wear out first cause they have the timing chain ripping down on them. Make sure you have oil pressure or it will happen to the new head.

what overhead cam head have you ever seen with actual "bearings" like a crank? I don't think even old school pushrod motors have that.

[SpecM]

what overhead cam head have you ever seen with actual "bearings" like a crank? I don't think even old school pushrod motors have that.

small-block chevys do... sort of...

[grantlacey11]

I would still pull that bottom oil pan and check for metal chunks. This is very typical of M42s. The metal chunks could also be from the chain or guides deteriorating. They could be blocking the oil pump pickup.

I think it's more likely that you killed it from no oil pressure. You said you saw the light and you turned around and went home. It only takes a little bit of no oil pressure to foul things up.

so would pulling the oil pan off to check solve anything? i mean, sure i might find some metal chunks, but doesnt it mean its already been sucked up into the head and clogged up there? or are you saying its jammed right in the tube that dips into the oilpan....

[Spinning Tires]

none overhead cam but pretty much every car that doesnt have an overhead cam has bearings you hammer out. Seems a lot cheeper then changing the entire block. The cam cradle is a good compromise though. I was unaware the m42 had one

what overhead cam head have you ever seen with actual "bearings" like a crank? I don't think even old school pushrod motors have that.

[Spinning Tires]

I think you might have screwed up the cam when you ran out of oil. It can happen that fast

[grantlacey11]

yes the cam is definitely screwed. can anyone help me out with these parts??

[grantlacey11]

on a lighter note:

heres what my valve cover looks like now! at least something is turning out well under the hood....

[bmwpower]

so would pulling the oil pan off to check solve anything? i mean, sure i might find some metal chunks, but doesnt it mean its already been sucked up into the head and clogged up there? or are you saying its jammed right in the tube that dips into the oilpan....

Yep, you do not want to go through the trouble of replacing the cam carrier and cam and putting all back together only to find out that you have low flow from the pickup tube being clogged. It is cheap insurance. I've lost count of the people who have toasted their engine because of the oil pan bolts had come undone, too. Check out M42club to see more. Either way I would thoroughly clean whatever you can reach. The pickup tube can be pulled out and cleaned, too.