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  • SebSter
    Advanced Member
    • May 2004
    • 192

    #16
    Before you dish out the cash for the h&r ix springs, you should know that springs made for any e30 will fit (even the fronts).

    I didnt know that, and sourced some h&rs through a place here came out to roughly 400 canadian new. When I see non-ix ones going for 200 and under, some even as low as 150 canadian all over the net. Plus the even with those the car still seems as high as a 4x4. Apparently, e30m3 springs give the ix a very nice stance, I heard its the new "it" thing for the ix guys.


    And I'd like to have someone explain (through physics) what makes cutting springs unsafe.

    Cutting a spring will change the spring rate, yes. The spring will also sit more compressed than normal. However, by the simple design of a spring, there is no chance of it "breaking", "snapping", "popping out". At the very *worst* the spring will compress entirely, and depending on your shocks the front end will sit on the bump stops. If the cut is in the correct place, the spring cannot pop out of the strut as a result of it being cut.


    You will get more body roll, yes. More bounce, yes (good shocks will negate this). Your handling will not improve, or be as good as having a set of springs specifically designed for the car. But if you dont care about shaving thousanths of a second off your lap time, or vigourously push your car in the corners, you shouldnt really worry about cutting the front springs. (Of course the rear is another story).



    Flame away, but if I am wrong then please prove it through actual principles of physics, not "my daddy said cutting springs is ghetto".
    1990 325ix

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    • Hatchman
      E30 Fanatic
      • Mar 2005
      • 1425

      #17
      what about like... struts and shocks... wont they eventually be raped by lower springs?
      I'm seriously asking...

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      • Digitalwave
        is a poseur
        • Oct 2003
        • 6282

        #18
        Originally posted by Hatchman
        what about like... struts and shocks... wont they eventually be raped by lower springs?
        I'm seriously asking...
        Yes, and usually not "eventually," rather "quickly."

        I am really trying to hold back from commenting on this thread, but those rims combined with cut springs... :weak:

        RISING EDGE

        Let's drive fast and have fun.

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        • Quik325ix
          Grease Monkey
          • Mar 2005
          • 381

          #19
          Originally posted by nando
          Originally posted by arsevader
          Originally posted by Hatchman
          dont ever say cutting springs on a BMW forum...
          The IX folks have been doing this for years. Not entirely kosher maybe but still tried and tested.

          James
          what ix folks? gordon haines did it like 10 years ago, but it's still a cheapass thing to do. H&R sports for the ix are only $220, why bother butchering your car and ruining the handling just for looks?

          keep it stock, put real lowering springs on it, or sell the damn thing rather than destroying another ix..


          AMEN BROTHA! e36 m3 springs will drop you about an inch an a quarter and u get a hell of a great ride...dont butcher that car...

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          • BMW BMXER
            R3VLimited
            • Oct 2003
            • 2325

            #20
            Originally posted by Quik325ix
            Originally posted by nando
            Originally posted by arsevader
            Originally posted by Hatchman
            dont ever say cutting springs on a BMW forum...
            The IX folks have been doing this for years. Not entirely kosher maybe but still tried and tested.

            James
            what ix folks? gordon haines did it like 10 years ago, but it's still a cheapass thing to do. H&R sports for the ix are only $220, why bother butchering your car and ruining the handling just for looks?

            keep it stock, put real lowering springs on it, or sell the damn thing rather than destroying another ix..


            AMEN BROTHA! e36 m3 springs will drop you about an inch an a quarter and u get a hell of a great ride...dont butcher that car...
            I would rather ride on cut e30 springs then e36m3 springs in an e30.

            Sold it.

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            • Digitalwave
              is a poseur
              • Oct 2003
              • 6282

              #21
              Originally posted by Quik325ix
              AMEN BROTHA! e36 m3 springs will drop you about an inch an a quarter and u get a hell of a great ride...dont butcher that car...
              The spring rates are so far off on normal E30's... which I am sure is even worse with an iX. E36 M3's have different rear suspension designs, therefore wildly different spring rates than average E30 rates.

              RISING EDGE

              Let's drive fast and have fun.

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              • nando
                Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 34827

                #22
                I just think it's funny that people who don't own an ix and basically know nothing about them are giving him advice on what to do. E30 M3 springs are even worse, they are far too soft and you will bottom out constantly. I already know some people who have tried them. E36 M3 springs are obviously made for a completely different car, which is RWD (duh). I guess you could do it if you wanted lots of understeer..

                if you own an ix, you should be prepared to spend money on it. they are expensive cars to own, simple as that. if you are not prepared to spend $200 on springs to properly lower your car, you won't be able to keep the car on the road for very long anyway.
                Build thread

                Bimmerlabs

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                • Hatchman
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 1425

                  #23
                  I will probably never lower my ix, the combination of the price of a good ix supension and the fact that many times the stock height comes in handy alot of times in the winter and some dirt roads around here... Ive bottomed outpletny with my stock height I could only imagine it being lower.. ix's were built to be monster trucks... mine will stay that way

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                  • YAN-3
                    R3V OG
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 6018

                    #24
                    wheels and a lower ride hight. it looks like the rare e30 SUV

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                    • Ryan Stewart
                      I Love Miatas
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 8978

                      #25
                      i dont think those wheels would look rediculous with a drop. They arent as simple as a lot of people like but they arent all bad.

                      It just looks funny with that thin ass sidewall along with 4" of gap to the fender lip. It really does look like its been lifted.

                      I say get some panasports in 14 and stud them. Go rally!
                      Im now E30less.
                      sigpic

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                      • AdironRider
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 3491

                        #26
                        Ive got the stock IX weaves with Hakkapellita studs on it. Should get through more snow than you could ever dream of.

                        E36m3 springs are out. Theyre much to harsh and not designed for the e30, let alone an ix. I feel pretty confident in the springs being cut, Ive talked to some guys on the ix registry and theyve had no problems. This isnt going to be for a while, and that usually means it stays stock.
                        Back to my roots

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                        • Addissimo
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 1820

                          #27
                          Stick with your wheels, paint them all black (get rid of the polished lip), get some h&rs, Put proper bumpers on your car, pull the dent out of the rear valance, and turbocharge your car to shit.

                          -Addis

                          Doing something M50 related? -> http://www.addissimo.com
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                          BF2142 SN = BillyGoose

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                          • JPL
                            Mod Crazy
                            • May 2005
                            • 774

                            #28
                            you're 4 wheeling now you should lower your car but don't cut your springs just spring for some IE stage 3's. If you cut your springs you should be castrated to match your car being worthless. One of the first things I did when I got my e30 was replace the suspension. My car handles great and I am still runnin the bottle caps. You are :loco:
                            Originally posted by Hawt drift chick
                            Yeah, i'm a good dude i swear, i just like to be balls to the wall.

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                            • AdironRider
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 3491

                              #29
                              Dude have you read any of the posts before yours. IE stage 3's are way to low for an ix.

                              Heres a link to the ix registry that outlines the cut method.
                              Back to my roots

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                              • Hatchman
                                E30 Fanatic
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 1425

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Addissimo
                                Stick with your wheels, paint them all black (get rid of the polished lip), get some h&rs, Put proper bumpers on your car, pull the dent out of the rear valance, and turbocharge your car to shit.

                                -Addis
                                you dont turbocharge ix's... without problems

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