M30b34 E30 twin-screw supercharged muscle car

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  • Ether-D
    R3VLimited
    • Sep 2011
    • 2838

    #106
    Right. My trans is a g240 btw. It a good bit shorter than a 265. I'm hoping that I can get away with a unmodified combo driveshaft or like chondamx said, an m20 g260 one.
    Originally posted by Andy.B
    Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
    1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
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    I was born on 3/25…
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    • ThatOneEuroE30
      R3V OG
      • Dec 2013
      • 8626

      #107
      Then you may be able to. I had to take IIRC I took like 2 inches out of it.


      1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
      1991 318i 4dr slick top


      Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
      Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
      Mtech 2 turbo restoration
      Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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      • KI4UJO
        Mod Crazy
        • Jun 2011
        • 640

        #108
        Just to ask - why not cut the firewall and fab it to fit around the motor instead of just beating on it? I'm asking simply because I have never seen anyone approach this swap with any other thoughts besides "just beat it in." Don't get me wrong, I like what you're doing (and considered it myself) but just thought I would ask.
        IMG_0145 by Jonathan Martin, on Flickr

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        • chondamx
          Wrencher
          • Oct 2010
          • 247

          #109
          That little G240 looks cute behind that tank of an engine--me limey! Also, cross hatching looks muy bueno. How deep are those score marks at the top of the cylinder? Maybe fill them in with some JB weld?
          '91 318is M52 Turbo (in pieces)

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          • Ether-D
            R3VLimited
            • Sep 2011
            • 2838

            #110
            Hey chondamx, how's your turbo build coming along?
            Originally posted by Andy.B
            Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
            1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
            ~~~~~~~~~~
            I was born on 3/25…
            ~~~~~~~~~~

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            • ThatOneEuroE30
              R3V OG
              • Dec 2013
              • 8626

              #111
              Originally posted by KI4UJO
              Just to ask - why not cut the firewall and fab it to fit around the motor instead of just beating on it? I'm asking simply because I have never seen anyone approach this swap with any other thoughts besides "just beat it in." Don't get me wrong, I like what you're doing (and considered it myself) but just thought I would ask.

              That's doing to much. It's easier to beat it. Takes like 10 min tops.


              1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
              1991 318i 4dr slick top


              Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
              Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
              Mtech 2 turbo restoration
              Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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              • glnr13
                E30 Fanatic
                • Oct 2011
                • 1334

                #112
                diggin the progress!

                i used the m10/g240 driveshaft for my build and that required 2 3/4" cut out of it.

                for your radiator mock up, is the core support in place? i don't think you can get the e30 radiator in there, it's super tight already when using the e28 535i radiator. the distributor is literally less than 5mm from the radiator.
                sigpic

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                • chondamx
                  Wrencher
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 247

                  #113
                  Originally posted by Ether-D
                  Hey chondamx, how's your turbo build coming along?
                  Much slower than this . All shit-giving aside, you're making awesome progress! If you need a hand give me a shout--its always a pretty drive out.

                  EDIT: I changed my sig just for you.
                  '91 318is M52 Turbo (in pieces)

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                  • Andy.B
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1650

                    #114
                    Originally posted by KI4UJO
                    Just to ask - why not cut the firewall and fab it to fit around the motor instead of just beating on it? I'm asking simply because I have never seen anyone approach this swap with any other thoughts besides "just beat it in." Don't get me wrong, I like what you're doing (and considered it myself) but just thought I would ask.
                    I used to be a Land Rover tech.

                    In the Discovery Series II, the v8 engine is installed as an assembled unit (obviously), and is an incredibly tight fit against the firewall. So tight that it is impossible to get a socket on one of the rearmost head bolts (let alone lift the head off) due to the overhang of the firewall. The actual, official, published service manual, direct from Land Rover to dealerships, includes a step that has a diagram showing exactly where to hammer the firewall, and how deeply to smash it in, in order to get enough clearance to perform a head gasket job.

                    If a few well placed hammer blows is all it takes to fit the engine, that is certainly a lot easier than modifying the design of the firewall. I mean, if Land Rover engineers didn't even think it was worth redesigning the firewall to accommodate the engine they designed and sold the vehicle with, then it certainly isn't worth it for our 25 year old cars.

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                    • Andy.B
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1650

                      #115
                      Originally posted by Ether-D
                      Right. My trans is a g240 btw. It a good bit shorter than a 265. I'm hoping that I can get away with a unmodified combo driveshaft or like chondamx said, an m20 g260 one.
                      I spent a few hours mixing and matching some driveshafts to get a short enough shaft to fit with the g265 I'm swapping in with my m30. It may be of some use to you.

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                      • Ether-D
                        R3VLimited
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 2838

                        #116
                        Originally posted by chondamx
                        Much slower than this . All shit-giving aside, you're making awesome progress! If you need a hand give me a shout--its always a pretty drive out.

                        EDIT: I changed my sig just for you.
                        I'll do it bro.
                        And I love your new sig, I lol-ed.
                        Originally posted by Andy.B
                        Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
                        1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
                        ~~~~~~~~~~
                        I was born on 3/25…
                        ~~~~~~~~~~

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                        • Ether-D
                          R3VLimited
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 2838

                          #117
                          Originally posted by Andy.B
                          I spent a few hours mixing and matching some driveshafts to get a short enough shaft to fit with the g265 I'm swapping in with my m30. It may be of some use to you.
                          I just read that. So good infos. And like I said on your thread, there needs to be a thread devoted to the different driveshaft sections, lengths, and compatibility. It would be a resource for sure.
                          Originally posted by Andy.B
                          Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
                          1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
                          ~~~~~~~~~~
                          I was born on 3/25…
                          ~~~~~~~~~~

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                          • Andy.B
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 1650

                            #118
                            Originally posted by Ether-D
                            I just read that. So good infos. And like I said on your thread, there needs to be a thread devoted to the different driveshaft sections, lengths, and compatibility. It would be a resource for sure.
                            My understanding is:
                            g260 works with a stock length driveshaft. Either with the stock output flange and a large guibo e30 shaft, or swap to a small output flange and use the I shaft.

                            G265 requires a shortened e30 shaft (with the flanges mentioned above), and maybe, if I get lucky, some combination of auto e30 and manual e28 parts.

                            As for your swap, I have no idea. Is the g240 shorter than the g260?
                            Last edited by Andy.B; 09-30-2014, 04:06 AM.

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                            • econti
                              E30 Enthusiast
                              • May 2014
                              • 1080

                              #119
                              Will the 240 actually handle the torque?
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                              (clicky on piccy to get to thread)

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                              • Ether-D
                                R3VLimited
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 2838

                                #120
                                The 240 supposedly handles up-to 300 lb/ft of torque before exploding. I plan to be in that range eventually. I think.

                                And I think the 240 is shorter than the 260.
                                Originally posted by Andy.B
                                Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
                                1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
                                ~~~~~~~~~~
                                I was born on 3/25…
                                ~~~~~~~~~~

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