2.8L M20 9.8:1 stroker build: my 323i reincarnated

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  • wworm
    E30 Mastermind
    • Dec 2016
    • 1719

    #106
    charge up the battery and give the starter a good whack. Thats how we got my friends land rover and 4runner to start. Similar sounds were being made before hand
    1984 Delphin 318i 2 door

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    • betz
      Grease Monkey
      • May 2016
      • 317

      #107
      So I swapped out the starter, and all is good. But the engine still won't start.

      Checked for spark and I have spark. Checked my fuel return line and there was no fuel in there though.

      Still working on it
      '86 Burgundrot 325 2.8 stroker.

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      Other cars:
      2000 Porsche Boxster
      2006 Subaru Outback XT 5MT
      1972 Porsche 914

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      • betz
        Grease Monkey
        • May 2016
        • 317

        #108
        Ran the fuel pump with a power supply, confirmed getting fuel back on the return line. I'm kind of out of ideas. Injectors maybe? They're the M50 green top. There's no way they're so messed up the motor won't start though...
        '86 Burgundrot 325 2.8 stroker.

        Build thread

        Other cars:
        2000 Porsche Boxster
        2006 Subaru Outback XT 5MT
        1972 Porsche 914

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        • betz
          Grease Monkey
          • May 2016
          • 317

          #109
          Well I'm fairly certain it's the injectors. Tried spraying some starting fluid in a vacuum line and I think I heard it run briefly and I got smoke out the back. Not sure if it could be I'm not getting enough fuel pressure though..
          '86 Burgundrot 325 2.8 stroker.

          Build thread

          Other cars:
          2000 Porsche Boxster
          2006 Subaru Outback XT 5MT
          1972 Porsche 914

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          • digger
            R3V Elite
            • Nov 2005
            • 5909

            #110
            injectors firing? for sure put a pressure gauge on it
            89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

            new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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            • betz
              Grease Monkey
              • May 2016
              • 317

              #111
              Originally posted by digger
              injectors firing? for sure put a pressure gauge on it
              How do I tell if the injectors are firing?
              '86 Burgundrot 325 2.8 stroker.

              Build thread

              Other cars:
              2000 Porsche Boxster
              2006 Subaru Outback XT 5MT
              1972 Porsche 914

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              • digger
                R3V Elite
                • Nov 2005
                • 5909

                #112
                plugs get wet?
                89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                • betz
                  Grease Monkey
                  • May 2016
                  • 317

                  #113
                  When I removed the plugs they seemed dry. I've also taken out a plug, grounded it and cranked the engine and it was for sure sparking.
                  '86 Burgundrot 325 2.8 stroker.

                  Build thread

                  Other cars:
                  2000 Porsche Boxster
                  2006 Subaru Outback XT 5MT
                  1972 Porsche 914

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                  • 2mAn
                    Moderator
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 20040

                    #114
                    What wiring are you using? Early model eta has 2 pumps and late have one. Might not be getting an fuel
                    Simon
                    Current Cars:
                    -1966 Lotus Elan
                    -1986 German Car
                    -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

                    Make R3V Great Again -2020

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                    • betz
                      Grease Monkey
                      • May 2016
                      • 317

                      #115
                      Replaced the injectors and it started! Still not perfect, motor shakes a bit at idle. Will try and upload a short video later
                      '86 Burgundrot 325 2.8 stroker.

                      Build thread

                      Other cars:
                      2000 Porsche Boxster
                      2006 Subaru Outback XT 5MT
                      1972 Porsche 914

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                      • betz
                        Grease Monkey
                        • May 2016
                        • 317

                        #116
                        Did it really just start??!!
                        '86 Burgundrot 325 2.8 stroker.

                        Build thread

                        Other cars:
                        2000 Porsche Boxster
                        2006 Subaru Outback XT 5MT
                        1972 Porsche 914

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                        • wworm
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Dec 2016
                          • 1719

                          #117
                          Originally posted by betz
                          woooo! what injectors did you swap in?
                          1984 Delphin 318i 2 door

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                          • 2mAn
                            Moderator
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 20040

                            #118
                            Originally posted by betz
                            did it really just start?!?
                            :rofl:
                            Simon
                            Current Cars:
                            -1966 Lotus Elan
                            -1986 German Car
                            -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

                            Make R3V Great Again -2020

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                            • betz
                              Grease Monkey
                              • May 2016
                              • 317

                              #119
                              Originally posted by wworm
                              woooo! what injectors did you swap in?
                              Lol. I had a set of stock M20 325i injectors sitting around... So... Those. Will probably try putting in some nice rebuilt M50 injectors fairly soon.

                              I kinda don't want to admit it but whatever. I changed the oil filter after running it for like 20 or so mins at around 2500 RPM. For the flakes and whatnot from breaking it in. Decided I wanted to try taking it for a drive. Friend was standing watching. Oil starts spewing out. Turn it off immediately. The gasket from the old filter was stuck on there, essentially I doubled up on the damn gaskets and that's what caused the catastrophic leak.

                              The oil had spurted towards the fan and the fan launched it up all the way on the roof.

                              Pretty certain everything is all good, ran for maybe 5 seconds on partial oil. Pretty hilarious though 😁
                              '86 Burgundrot 325 2.8 stroker.

                              Build thread

                              Other cars:
                              2000 Porsche Boxster
                              2006 Subaru Outback XT 5MT
                              1972 Porsche 914

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                              • Kedge
                                Member
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 44

                                #120
                                Good to hear that you’ve got it running. The oil incident shouldn’t cause any issue for you, just a nice clean up sesh 🤣.

                                Try and get some good injectors in there ASAP, my M20B28 was pinking on the M20 injectors, even did it on the M50 injectors until I increased the fuel pressure.


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