Rotary-- Flame On!

[Brinkley]

mwahahahahaahahahahahahahahah
YESSSSSSSSSS

[1989325ii]

:( nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooo

[rThor432]

Negative. LS1 weighs in at around 400 lbs according to ls1tech.com

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=242392

when my buddy went to va and originally picked up my 13b keg he picked it up by himself and set it in the front seat of his prelude for the ride home.
Can you do that with an ls1?

no

[Brinkley]

Thats does not sound right at all. Can you show me some sources? I got into an argument with somebody a while back about the LS1 T56 vs 13b-rew for weight comparisons. He eventually showed me enough sources and data to convince me that the for the full swap (Ls1 into an FD) that it actually comes out at a slight weight savings(an sr20 with turbos and plumbing is also going to be heavier than the LS1 btw). I don't have the sources he gave me from that discussion, nor do I have any information on the S14 but but id expect it to be pretty close to the rotary if not lighter.

Negative. LS1 weighs in at around 400 lbs according to ls1tech.com

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=242392

when my buddy went to va and originally picked up my 13b keg he picked it up by himself and set it in the front seat of his prelude for the ride home.
Can you do that with an ls1?

[LivingLegend06]

hey, i will be happy to help :). just to let you know though, the 13b-rew, tranny and turbos wiegh aprox. 125lbs less than the s14 motor. and yeah, haltech for the mngt.

Thats does not sound right at all. Can you show me some sources? I got into an argument with somebody a while back about the LS1 T56 vs 13b-rew for weight comparisons. He eventually showed me enough sources and data to convince me that the for the full swap (Ls1 into an FD) that it actually comes out at a slight weight savings(an sr20 with turbos and plumbing is also going to be heavier than the LS1 btw). I don't have the sources he gave me from that discussion, nor do I have any information on the S14 but but id expect it to be pretty close to the rotary if not lighter.


Just out of curiosity anyone know anything about how an F20c would compare?

[Brinkley]

LOL. Yea i will need to upgrade the leaky 318i diff i bet. ill find one from a 325i and roll. Not sure what the FD had in it.
Update: Spoke with Steve Osley today, going to go stock ecu no boost controller for now. should still be plenty power.
Need to set up an account with RHD Japan and get that stuff ordered get this keg together.

[nando]

tell someone thats new to bmw's they need a large case. They come back w/ a 7 diff and are pissed that it doesn't fit then you let em cry on your shoulder. Semantics would be something like 6 or a half dozen, not two things that are different lol.

then they are retarded. most people would assume that you would need a diff made for an E30, not a 7 series. if you want a part for your ford truck do you go looking for a taurus?

[asubimmer]

Amen .

Ban ?

sigh... brinkley is new to BMWs and i'm sure i would have confused him by saying medium case diff without explaining the large case diffs that NO E30 HAS EVER USED NOR WILL EVER USE. <3



Thats like fuckers who say s52b32 doens't exist... it's the s52us b32 bla bla bla



eat a large case dick.

Julien

[Julien]

sigh... brinkley is new to BMWs and i'm sure i would have confused him by saying medium case diff without explaining the large case diffs that NO E30 HAS EVER USED NOR WILL EVER USE. <3

Thats like fuckers who say s52b32 doens't exist... it's the s52us b32 bla bla bla

eat a large case dick.
Julien

[asubimmer]

christ! nobody cares about your semantics. in the E30 world, there are only two diffs. we don't really give a fuck what came on 7 series etc.

tell someone thats new to bmw's they need a large case. They come back w/ a 7 diff and are pissed that it doesn't fit then you let em cry on your shoulder. Semantics would be something like 6 or a half dozen, not two things that are different lol.

[Teaguer]

christ! nobody cares about your semantics. in the E30 world, there are only two diffs. we don't really give a fuck what came on 7 series etc.

Amen .

Ban ?

[nando]

e30's only had med and small case diff's. A large case diff won't fit on an e30...

christ! nobody cares about your semantics. in the E30 world, there are only two diffs. we don't really give a fuck what came on 7 series etc.

[backtrail69]

Yea that's probably s14 w/ trans. still a healthy weight savings.
as scbeamer will tell you even an FC (turbo) with the 13bt will easily waste an e30. Stock FD makes 255hp/215tq that's a pretty healthy gain over the m20 or s14 just stock for stock. Single turbo setups get into the 400s.

Going to talk to Steve Osley tomorrow hopefully put together a time frame to get the keg assembled and get started with getting this thing in. I think he's in the middle of a 20b build so a lil busy right now. It's ok I can wait a while in order to save a bunch o' $$$$$$.
Just to clear a few things up:
1. Yes I have a 20b intercooler Steve found it in his crawlspace under his house. :) Slighty better than the PATHETIC FD one, i have one of those too.
2. Stock twins ( Non - sequential setup )
3. Stock ECU for now
4. No Emissions, no cat, no nada
5. Boost controller with mild setting planned
6. Stock FD trans
7. will need custom driveshaft
8. Need better Diff for rear end still
9. FD radiator fits perfectly got one for 20 bux.

You are really going to need a standalone unless you keep the cats... Also the Stock e30 rear shouldn't have any problems. Matt325is has been running 300 + WHP for 30k miles on his car with no issues at all. Also all the FD guys upgrade to bigger rads because they all seem to have cooling problems. You are going to at least run 850/850 injectors with anything more than stock boost. You are also going to want to get a bigger IC, intakes and ignition upgrades. One of my best friends is a rotor head. He has had 4 FD, many FCs and a SA..

[Teaguer]

e30's only had med and small case diff's.

[asubimmer]

about the e30 diff: just pick up a 3.73 large case from any 325i and you will be good to go.

e30's only had med and small case diff's. A large case diff won't fit on an e30...