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  • nando
    Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 34827

    #16
    Originally posted by e30rapidic
    19# injectors and M30 AFM and a thing called a custom chip....
    that's not the same as a dyno tune, not even close.
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    • F34R
      sLaughter
      • May 2009
      • 12390

      #17
      Originally posted by nando
      that's not the same as a dyno tune, not even close.
      I am doing M50 injectors and miller MAF/war chip. Don't know if that is enough...and taking it to a dyno mid summer to get everything flowing right.
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      • e30rapidic
        R3VLimited
        • Oct 2003
        • 2167

        #18
        Originally posted by nando
        that's not the same as a dyno tune, not even close.
        Whoa...what do you mean!??!?! But I read it on the web. Oh No. So I suppose you are going to tell me these aren't worth my time either??



        and



        /sarcasm
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        • Danny
          Moderator
          • Feb 2008
          • 14217

          #19
          I must have misunderstood.

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          • F34R
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            • May 2009
            • 12390

            #20
            Large order just put in with blunttech. Thanks Steve!
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            • e30rapidic
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              • Oct 2003
              • 2167

              #21
              Originally posted by E30 F34R
              Large order just put in with blunttech. Thanks Steve!
              awesome
              '87 325ic, powered by S50.

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              • F34R
                sLaughter
                • May 2009
                • 12390

                #22
                Originally posted by e30rapidic
                awesome
                Indeed! parts will be arriving Wed and followed on Thursday with the other pistons rings. Slight mix up but all is ordered and on route tomorrow!

                blunt told me to ask you about "the incident" in Bel haven...hahahha xD
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                • e30rapidic
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                  • Oct 2003
                  • 2167

                  #23
                  Originally posted by E30 F34R


                  blunt told me to ask you about "the incident" in Bel haven...hahahha xD
                  ahaha..that was supposed to be our little secret!
                  '87 325ic, powered by S50.

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                  • F34R
                    sLaughter
                    • May 2009
                    • 12390

                    #24
                    Originally posted by e30rapidic
                    ahaha..that was supposed to be our little secret!
                    Lawl xD
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                    • Wh33lhop
                      R3V OG
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 11705

                      #25
                      Originally posted by nando
                      I bet not :p

                      an untuned stroker makes about as much power as a stock engine. see dave length's 3 liter..
                      lol... that is some OG shit. I joined baye30 like ten years ago, I still remember that guy. What happened to him?

                      Back on topic I've really wanted to do a stroker vert for awhile now... all the better to experience the built M20 sound with no roof (needs moar cammed idle). Make it happen!
                      paint sucks

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                      • MR 325
                        Moderator
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 37825

                        #26
                        Ireland has a decent price on the crank scraper.

                        And YES, replace the rings, sheesh.
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                        • F34R
                          sLaughter
                          • May 2009
                          • 12390

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Wh33lhop

                          Back on topic I've really wanted to do a stroker vert for awhile now... all the better to experience the built M20 sound with no roof (needs moar cammed idle). Make it happen!
                          cams are planned I think the 284 are perfect for what he wants. I am sure he will spring for them.

                          Originally posted by MR 325
                          Ireland has a decent price on the crank scraper.

                          And YES, replace the rings, sheesh.
                          Been covered and bought already =)

                          I saw a posting in one of the stroker builds with a site about selling mostly scrapers. I cannot find it...
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                          • Wh33lhop
                            R3V OG
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 11705

                            #28
                            Originally posted by E30 F34R
                            cams are planned I think the 284 are perfect for what he wants. I am sure he will spring for them.
                            Cams?

                            Where? ;)

                            No point in building up the bottom end if you're not going to help the head move more air amirite? All Schricks are the same price, so if he's not keeping the stock cam there's no reason not to go 284 (just make sure you've got enough valve relief).
                            paint sucks

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                            • F34R
                              sLaughter
                              • May 2009
                              • 12390

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Wh33lhop
                              Cams?

                              Where? ;)

                              No point in building up the bottom end if you're not going to help the head move more air amirite? All Schricks are the same price, so if he's not keeping the stock cam there's no reason not to go 284 (just make sure you've got enough valve relief).
                              Going to buy from TMS and yes the Schrick 284
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                              • F34R
                                sLaughter
                                • May 2009
                                • 12390

                                #30
                                New question on the crank scrapers.

                                I looked at http://crank-scrapers.com/bmw.html they are double the price of IE

                                http://store.nexternal.com/ireland/o...-m20-p615.aspx

                                I am going to take the grinder to the crank when it gets in and knife edge it and then have it balanced. So I was thinking maybe crank-scrapers is better to go with since they offer knife blade ones.

                                To be honest the "crank-scrapers" one looks over all better and more time into it. The IE is just a stamped blah...

                                Also would anyone happen to have a picture of their knife edged weights? I would like a general idea of where to stop. I googled it and found lots of different ways. I was thinking the ax design is best. And I get the idea of why you do it.

                                What is the best way at holding it down while grinding?

                                Last question for the night:

                                Should I pick up this:


                                Or Schrick 284 cams?

                                What one would give better over all performance. I am leaning at the Miller because a tune does wonders =)

                                As of now i have spent 611.00. Still have to get the block honed and cleaned for the work a head. I was also thinking of having some porting done. Or should I save that for another day?

                                Let's say I get all this shit what is the HP numbers going to be around?

                                everything listed so far with Schrick 284 or 288 cams, Miller stroker tune and a port/polish.

                                My brother said he has 2,500 that he wants to dump into the car. My Uncle is painting so the is cost of paint and everything else is bought over all. So it leaves us in a good spot to pick up both cams and tuning. I just don't want him to spend 1k+ on that and only gain a little bit more.

                                In the 2.8 stroker PDF DL best of the day was 199hp 198trq or something like that. I am not sure on what they had for cams. But that is really good #s for a tune. But I don't know what this will be making without the tune...so anyone with this setup that can chime in would help me figure this out.

                                Thanks guys, good night.
                                Last edited by F34R; 03-22-2011, 12:32 AM.
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