1990 325is restomod project aka "Klaus"

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  • Staszek
    R3VLimited
    • May 2006
    • 2533

    #616
    Originally posted by 2mAn
    Yours look like H&R super sports, that might by the difference
    That would be a manufacturing error though since they are marked 50406, which is the regular Sport Model Number.
    Euro Delivery Thread///E30 Project Klaus///COTM August 2021

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    • Staszek
      R3VLimited
      • May 2006
      • 2533

      #617
      On a lighter note, first carwash since the swap and all the work I did, no leaks!

      Euro Delivery Thread///E30 Project Klaus///COTM August 2021

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      • rzerob
        R3VLimited
        • Jun 2013
        • 2315

        #618
        Try a set of h&r ix rears. They will raise the rear.
        How to remove, install or convert to pop out windows
        http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=297611


        Could be better, could be worse.

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        • Staszek
          R3VLimited
          • May 2006
          • 2533

          #619
          Originally posted by rzerob
          Try a set of h&r ix rears. They will raise the rear.
          Thanks, did you see the pic of my rear springs, I dont think they should be that compressed under zero load, car just sitting parked.

          This week I am going to disconnect the shocks to see if that is an issue.
          Euro Delivery Thread///E30 Project Klaus///COTM August 2021

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          • rzerob
            R3VLimited
            • Jun 2013
            • 2315

            #620
            Yeah it does look compressed too much but it is not. That is normal. The springs that are touching are dead springs and they are designed to compress like that. As long as you have a gap somewhere in your coils then you are good. Get a stiffer rear spring if you want it to sit higher. Either go with the H&R ix rear springs or H&R E36 rear springs. Or go with coilovers and dial in the exact height you want.
            How to remove, install or convert to pop out windows
            http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=297611


            Could be better, could be worse.

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            • Staszek
              R3VLimited
              • May 2006
              • 2533

              #621
              Originally posted by rzerob
              Yeah it does look compressed too much but it is not. That is normal. The springs that are touching are dead springs and they are designed to compress like that. As long as you have a gap somewhere in your coils then you are good. Get a stiffer rear spring if you want it to sit higher. Either go with the H&R ix rear springs or H&R E36 rear springs. Or go with coilovers and dial in the exact height you want.
              Ahh so the IX Springs and E36 Springs are higher? By how much?
              Euro Delivery Thread///E30 Project Klaus///COTM August 2021

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              • jeenyus
                R3VLimited
                • Aug 2011
                • 2064

                #622
                They are stiffer, so they set your car higher.

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                • rzerob
                  R3VLimited
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 2315

                  #623
                  Originally posted by Staszek
                  Ahh so the IX Springs and E36 Springs are higher? By how much?
                  I don't know for sure but my guess would be somewhere between 1/2" to 1".
                  How to remove, install or convert to pop out windows
                  http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=297611


                  Could be better, could be worse.

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                  • Staszek
                    R3VLimited
                    • May 2006
                    • 2533

                    #624
                    Originally posted by rzerob
                    I don't know for sure but my guess would be somewhere between 1/2" to 1".
                    Thanks, I am going to disconnect shocks see if that is causing some of the compression. If it isn't I may try the ix rears, I hear the fronts are the same as the regular sports.
                    Euro Delivery Thread///E30 Project Klaus///COTM August 2021

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                    • mike.bmw
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Dec 2015
                      • 1746

                      #625
                      As others have said, that is normal for the rear H&R springs. Even my H&R OE Sports do that. H&R says that the dead coils are intentional and "working as designed". If you'd like to raise the rear a bit, you can opt for thicker rear spring pads (E46 rear pads are ~15mm) or adjustable rear spring pads via the aftermarket.

                      E30 spring pads come in various sizes (5mm and 7.5mm), but the ~15mm E46 pads are a direct fit. Based on the suspension geometry (springs being inboard on the trailing arms), you'll get a more-than-expected ride height increases with thicker pads. Meaning, going from 7.5mm to 15mm rear spring pads will actually raise the rear more than the 7.5mm difference between those spring pad thicknesses. Hopefully that makes sense.

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                      • Staszek
                        R3VLimited
                        • May 2006
                        • 2533

                        #626
                        Originally posted by mike.bmw
                        As others have said, that is normal for the rear H&R springs. Even my H&R OE Sports do that. H&R says that the dead coils are intentional and "working as designed". If you'd like to raise the rear a bit, you can opt for thicker rear spring pads (E46 rear pads are ~15mm) or adjustable rear spring pads via the aftermarket.

                        E30 spring pads come in various sizes (5mm and 7.5mm), but the ~15mm E46 pads are a direct fit. Based on the suspension geometry (springs being inboard on the trailing arms), you'll get a more-than-expected ride height increases with thicker pads. Meaning, going from 7.5mm to 15mm rear spring pads will actually raise the rear more than the 7.5mm difference between those spring pad thicknesses. Hopefully that makes sense.
                        I actually already have 10mm pads on them now. Maybe I will go to 15mm.
                        Euro Delivery Thread///E30 Project Klaus///COTM August 2021

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                        • mike.bmw
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Dec 2015
                          • 1746

                          #627
                          Originally posted by Staszek
                          I actually already have 10mm pads on them now. Maybe I will go to 15mm.
                          Cool, how much higher do you want to raise it?

                          Awesome car, by the way. I've been following this thread for a while and it's fantastic.

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                          • Staszek
                            R3VLimited
                            • May 2006
                            • 2533

                            #628
                            Originally posted by mike.bmw
                            Cool, how much higher do you want to raise it?

                            Awesome car, by the way. I've been following this thread for a while and it's fantastic.
                            Not too much maybe 1/2" I am not a fan of the tucked wheels, I want to match the front.
                            Euro Delivery Thread///E30 Project Klaus///COTM August 2021

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                            • laidback93
                              E30 Addict
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 434

                              #629
                              Popped my head back into the thread and wow.

                              She is looking so nice! The Nagaro weaves look so damn good on Alpine.
                              90 Bronzit 325is
                              16 Black Sapphire 340i M Sport

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                              • wworm
                                E30 Mastermind
                                • Dec 2016
                                • 1719

                                #630
                                my h&r sports looked exactly the same under load. Irked me for sure but I was too poor to worry about it too much

                                edit: didnt realize there was a whole second page of people saying this is normal..well glad to not have contributed anything once again

                                Glad its running!
                                Last edited by wworm; 05-28-2019, 03:50 PM.
                                1984 Delphin 318i 2 door

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